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N subramanian (Website) wrote at 18-09-2014 2:35 pm:

 PensionIssue
What is the full expansion of Aibarc?Updation demand has started gaining ground only from very recently. RBI staff have won in their demand for updation. Naturally the bankers should also get updation. We have been asking for it, demanding for it and fighting for redressal of the anomolies in the fixation of payment of pension to the 7th BP retirees which despite the lapse of more than a decade we could not get. As you know our bank pensioners fedns are not strong enough to fight because we cannot make an impact whereas the working staff federations can do, Now the 10th BP talks are in progress and atleast now not lamenting about the past and not thinking about what we have lost let us get justice atleast now .
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 18-09-2014 1:12 pm:

 pensioners plight
We are not against UFBU in their demands.Let us understand that now Aibarc in their latest circular say there were prov ision for updation of pension. Who is responsibnle for non payment updation. I honestly admit we are responsible for this by not making demand by appropriate methods.
 

N subramanian (Website) wrote at 18-09-2014 12:59 pm:

 ufbu meweting with IBA
UFBA expressed its willingness to come down from their earlier demand of 25% subject to... It appears that in their agenda some of the demands pertaining to the pensioners also are there. If they can negotiate to win updation of pension for the pensioners as in the case of CENTRAL Govt staff it is worth to agree for a lower increase of even 15% will be very good/ Once it is over there is no more asking for any benefits for the pensioners in the subsequent wage settlements to come. Will they ponder over this aspect and take a wise decision!
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 18-09-2014 5:10 am:

 retired bank employees plight an imagination
It is learnt from the blogs that the date of next round of talks is either 23 or 27. Sbi federations case comes up for final hearing on 25th. If the courts verdict is in favour of the retirees then it is easier for iba to discuss the residual available . Let us hope for the best
 

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 17-09-2014 5:18 pm:

 10th BPS meet on 17th Sep 2014
As per information available, in order to find amicable solution,Bank Unions (U.F.B.U.) indicated flexibility on its demand of 25% provided I.B.A. revise its offer substantially and also settle other issues.

IBA told they would hold meeting in the next week and respond.

Further details are awaited.
 

V k Arora wrote at 16-09-2014 2:54 pm:

 MOF __ LENIENT APPROACH
All would have come to know that appointments on compassionate grounds have been restored effective August. I consider this to be a good development which may also reflect in MOF/BANK's attitude towards 7th BIPARTITE retirees. Let us wish.
 

R.Parthasarathy wrote at 15-09-2014 8:04 am:

 SBI Pensioners
There is unconfirmed information in mails received by me that there was a meeting between the SBI Chairperson and our Federation representative on the 11th of this month. If so, the reasons for keeping the information confidential, whatever they may be, will only increase the stress levels for the affected pensioners, especially the 7th bipartite ones. We request the Federation to clarify.
 

SujoyGhosh wrote at 13-09-2014 10:09 pm:

 Delhi High Court-Federation Case.
Mr.T V Jayakrishnan-your post of 13th.September 2014-Great News.Let us hope for the best.Sujoy Ghosh
 

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 13-09-2014 6:45 pm:

 STATE BANK OF INDIA PENSIONERS' FEDERATION CASE AT DELHI HIGH COURT - : W.P.(C)-1875/2013
I was informed by Mr. Sivagyanam as follows on the above subject:

QUOTE:

The Federation I.A petition filed in DHC to "Not to post Writ Petition No 2353/2014 transferred from Jharkand High Court along with W.P 1875 of 2013 with a request for Final Hearing" DHC has posted the cases on 25.09.2014. The Federation case is posted in court No.35 as item No.12 and Jharkand case No.2353 of 2014 posted in court No.5 as item No.2.
THE INFORMATION AVAILABLE IN THE WEB SITE INDICATE THAT BOTH CASES WILL BE HEARD SEPERATELY AND THE CORRECT POSITION WILL BE KNOWN ONLY TO THE FEDERATION.
According to the web site information the CASE IS POSTED FOR FINAL HEARING ON 25.09.2014. I wish all success for the Federation and expect the early Judgment favourable to the PENSIONERS.

UNQUOTE:

Let all of wish all success to the FEDERATION.
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 13-09-2014 10:27 am:

 7th bipartite bank retirees plight
I very much appreciate the efforts to be taken by young bankers today afternoon at juntar mantar delhi to acheive better bargaining in the 10th bipartite wage negotiation for bank employees in our country. achievement is the goal and not who does. Hats off and all the best.
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 13-09-2014 10:08 am:

 new development
I very much appreciate the efforts to be taken by young bankers today afternoon at juntar mantar delhi to acheive better bargaining in the 10th bipartite wage negotiation for bank employees in our country. achievement is the goal and not who does. Hats off and all the best.
 

R.Parthasarathy wrote at 13-09-2014 9:23 am:

 New developments
In the LIC Pensioners' Forum, an article has the information that today the younger generation of Bank employees, without any dividers between them on the basis of which banks they work for, will stage a dharna at Jantar Mantar asking for at par treatment with Central Govt. employees. It also says that they are against retired people representing them at meaningless and protracted negotiations. It, in my opinion, indicates a revolution. It also seems that the younger generation will lead hereafter.
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 12-09-2014 6:56 pm:

 bank pensioners assn
I have expressed my concern only after going through several members writings and having known that something has happened at the time of finalisation of 8th bipartite wage settlement and 7thbipartite pensionersx interests have been overlooked as expressed by a member in these column. Even after this we have not woken up and we continued to rely on others and failed . Please know that during 1966 when officers assn went on strike we were threatened with arrests. Many of us are still under the illusion that we are white collared while unorghanised workers stage demonstrations to get their grievances are attended to.We are well trained by our employers to be patient even when unlawful reduction is made in our pension. I am particular abt 7th bipartite retirees
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 12-09-2014 11:28 am:

 bank pensioners plight
While thanking Mr.Nair I have to report that this suggestion of mine was given to one o four top most assn office bearer as early as 9 yrs back. He ignored due to egoism. Today he is telling our members off the record that it is beyond his capacity. I do not express negative attitude. But too many groups filing cases spoil the process of achieiving our goal. As earlier attempts were made to group all the delhi high court. If aibprc is recognised and we pensioners support one organisation things can be achieved without avoidable legal tangles and expenses. There are signs simplifying the legal process. The suggestions has been given because we cannot rely on others to solve our problem
 
Comment: Dear Mr Dhanabalan,
We pensioners have to fight for our own cause. Other organizations and the Govt have left us in the lurch, repeatedly. The SBI Pensioners Federation have mediated and brought two All India bodies of pensioners, one affiliated to AIBEA and another to AIBOC. A joint memorandum on the common demands have been submitted to the govt. We also have to fight for our own issues separately.

TNR Nair wrote at 12-09-2014 9:00 am:

 SBI Pensioners
Mr. Dhanabalan is absolutely right. Our problems are not properly highlighted and the waiting for positive response from the powers that be has no meaning looking to the way the things are moving. Its high time our issues are brought out through media intervention.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Nair,
We do not entirely agree with your views. We have been fighting within our limitations. Street corner meetings, Dharnas, signature campaigns, media publicity, enlisting the support of MPs, court cases, persuasive meetings, forming coordination committees with the two serving Federations,.....all options have been tries. Whatever yields results for us, is the right method.

dhanabalan a wrote at 12-09-2014 3:46 am:

 bank pensioners plight
nothing can be achieved without the involvement of the beneficiaries i.e pensioners individually and collectively. they should go to the streets by conducting peaceful dharnas and demonstrations at all taluk levels in the country. recently formed aibprc should take the initiative and form taluk level assn units for this purpose.they may collect contributions by asking the members to remit to their bank account nominal subscriptions. taluk level units should be given the job responsibility. Messages to members by aibprc can and should be put in the website
 
Comment: Dear Mr Dhanabalan,
We share the concern expressed by you for pensioners. However, unlike the serving Associations, our Association is not a Trade Union, and has limited options to press their demands. We have to keep fighting within these limitations. Our Federation and different Associations are doing exactly that. Let us not give up.

N. J. CHAVAN VICE PRESEDENT SBI PENSTIONERS ASSOCTION PUNE UNIT KOLHAPUR wrote at 11-09-2014 2:57 pm:

 AGM OF SBI PENSTIONERS ASSOCTION BOMBAYCIRCLE PUNE UNIT KOLHAPUR
AGM WAS HELD OF THE ABOVE UNIT IN KOLHAPUR ON 10TH SEPTEMBER 2014 SHRI C P KUKKARNI SHRI K M RASTE FROME PUNE AND SHRI P M NARKAR VICE PRESEDENT BOMBAYCIRCLE WERE PRESENT WITH GRAD SUCCEESS.THOSE WHO HAVE COMPLETED 75 YEARS OF AGE WEREFALICITED SHRI SHANTUNIN PENDESE AGM RBO KOLHAPUR ALSO ADRESS THE PENSTIONERS MEET
 
Comment: Dear Mr Chavan,
We congratulate you and your entire team for your untiring efforts. Your achievements inspire us to keep on struggling for justice for pensioners.

SujoyGhosh wrote at 10-09-2014 12:22 pm:

 7th.BPs-Court cases-Salil Kumar Ghosh
Mr.T Jayakrishnan-7th.BPs-Just after posting my observation I learnt from the residence of Mr.Salil Ghosh that he is admitted to R.N.Tagore(Devi Shetty) hospital for a heart procedure(stent/balloon/or whatever else it may be) and is likely to be released within this week.Since it is close to my house I might visit him today or tomorrow.In an earlier post I had suggested that if SBI goes on appeal to the Supreme Court we the 7th.BPs. might contribute some amounts for Mr.Ghosh to continue the court case on his return from the Hospital.It will have to be a voluntary contribution.Think it over.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
If need be, pensioners should contribute in different ways to keep Shri Salil Ghosh, well and also his case alive. No other financial assistance will be required. We from our Association are in touch with him. Thanks for your concern and gesture.
The case in Delhi High Court will automatically cover the deprived pensioners of 7th Bipartite retirees too. We have already collected funds for that. let us not give up.

SujoyGhosh wrote at 10-09-2014 12:04 pm:

 7th.BPs-Court cases
Mr.T .Jayakrishnan-your post of the 9th.September 2014-Yes, as in Madras High Court where a group of 7th.BPs filed the case,similarly in Kerala High Court.But in Bengal it is not possible for a group of Bengalis to band together because each will be pulling the other down but one pensioner Mr. Salil Kumar Ghosh has filed a similar case and got an order from a single Judge bench of Calcutta High Court but the GOI/SBI have file an appeal in the CJ+1 Judge division bench and it is being prolonged by GOI/SBI for the last two years.But as you suggest the PenFed has filed a case but it is not 7th.BP specific and is due on the 25th.September 2014.But it may not be effective,if at all, from the date of retirement for the 7th.BPs.Let us await the 25th.September 2014 in the Delhi High Court.But then,there is an appeal for SBI/GOI in the Supreme Court which will delay matters.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
We do not agree with your comments on pensioners of Bengal. Pensioners of Bengal have proved time and again, their will and urge for fighting for legitimate rights. We are sure they will continue to do so.
We do not agree also with your observation that the case due for hearing in the Delhi High Court Div. Bench (transferred from Supreme Court) on 25th Sept., 2014, will not yield any benefit to the deprived pensioners of 7th Bipartite. The petition of the Fed has asked for one simple relief. Pension @ 50% of average salary drawn by pensioner. 7th Bipartite was specifically not mentioned in the petition, for otherwise the case would have been immediately dismissed, as the same matter was already pending in different High Courts. But the relief will obviously benefit them in a big way.
We request you to refrain from spreading any negativity or cynicism about the plight of pensioners, come what may. Let us not stop hoping.

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 09-09-2014 8:29 pm:

 COURT CASES – A SUGGESTION - Mr. Sujoy Ghosh's reply
Mr. Sujay Ghosh

Thanks for your kind reply. What I suggested was only a suggestion only to avoid inconvenience/delay for the litigants. I understand the problems that is like to take place.

I am also aware that whenever few persons file a case (as test case - as in the case of Madras High court by some SBI Pensioners/33 LIC Pensioners) the amount will be negligible for the management. But if the same is filed by PENSIONERS' FEDERATION/ASSOCIATION it will be a sizeable amount.

But if the political/judicial will is there, a solution can be found out.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Jayakrishnan,
If needed, the Federation will definitely considering impleading themselves as party to various cases. If this strengthens the cases, the Federation should not hesitate taking such an approach. This is likely to be decided upon in the forthcoming meeting of the Fed at Vizag.

SujoyGhosh wrote at 09-09-2014 2:45 pm:

 Court cases
Mr.Jayakrishnan T V-your post of 08.09.2014.The Supreme Court order relates to Criminal cases where the liberty of the undertrials are curtailed because of the pendency of the cases where the State is the prosecuting agency with the investigating/police authortities and the tardiness of the State impinges on the Constitutional right of the citizen and so bail has been ordered with T&Cs.But in Civil cases it is dealt with differently and only in deserving cases in money suits and Taxation cases there are instances of deposit of a percentage of the amount involved.e.g Sahara case-the accused has been asked to deposit a certain amount to avail bail.In our case it is the adjournment syndrome which the Govt.is using to delay/prevent matters to come to a logical conclusion You may refer to my post of 08.09.2014 unless you already have.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
Thanks a lot for your clarifications.

bharat bhushan wrote at 09-09-2014 1:31 pm:

 pension issue
updation of pension is key and ultimately banefit to working staff
 
Comment: Dear mr Bhushan,
We are hopeful about the introduction of updation in the banking industry, as it is being considered in RBI. Let us hope for the best.

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 08-09-2014 8:12 pm:

 COURT CASES – A SUGGESTION
Very recently Supreme Court of India has ordered release of under trials if they have completed half the period mandated for the crime subject to some terms and conditions.

Following the same principles, I put forth a suggestion which may be highlighted in the appropriate forum. Whenever a high court gives a verdict giving some monetary benefits to an individual or group of persons, if the other party has to make an appeal in Supreme Court of India he has to deposit 50 % of the claim amount in the court. If such a rule is implemented, I feel that most of the cases filed by persons/firms/ companies/PSUs/Govt. Departments who want to drag the cases will try to get justice at an early date without protracting the legal process (by filing inappropriate/incomplete affidavits, drag the cases by asking for adjournments again and again, etc).

Of course this cannot be applied to property or other disputes.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Jayakrishnan,
Such a step, although welcome for all citizens, may not be applicable for civil matters like our court cases. Thanks for your concern and suggestion.

SujoyGhosh wrote at 08-09-2014 4:46 pm:

 Mediclaim policy
Mr.Arun Kumar Das-your post of the 8th.September 2014.You may contact any of the PSI companies for their Varishta mediclaim polcies.If within age limit you may prefer the general mediclaim policy.PSIs have copayment of 10% whereas Star health has 30%.Go online and compare mediclaim policies T&Cs and other factors.Sujoy Ghosh
 

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 08-09-2014 4:33 pm:

 7th.BPs
Mr.Rohit Sharma-Your post of the 4th.September 2014.I have been away and then into a nursing home.From the 1st.of this month I am home.Yes,unfortunately the lawyers community is too powerful even for the present PM.The adjournement syndrome in the Courts is a sickness enabling the legal community to thrive.I had addressed the issue to the PM soon after he took charge.But he is as helpless as us despite the CJI having brought up the issue a few months back.It does not suit anybody's palate!We have to suffer in silence till our end.But we can always nurture hopes. In criminal case the Supreme Court has ordered release of criminals if they have served half the period mandated for the crime t&c applies.But the adjournment syndrome will have the last laugh!!But at least a positive step is in the offing.Sujoy Ghosh
 

arun chandra das wrote at 08-09-2014 9:27 am:

 choose of mediclaim policy.
as per your comment you suggest me for obtain a mediclaim policy.now-a-days there is more and more mediclaim policy.what co.policy is suggest for me,please help.
 

arun chandra das wrote at 07-09-2014 11:37 am:

 not apply for sbi REMBS
i am retired from adb berhampore (WB)(3914) on 31.10.2012 as sr.spl.asstt.but at that time i could not apply for sbi retired employees' medical benefit scheme for unforeseen reasons.now i want to be a member of that scheme whether i can get this facility, if so, how ?
 
Comment: Dear Arun,
You could have become a member of REMBS had you completed the formalities including depositing the lump sum required, within 3 months of your retirement. It is not possible now; We suggest that you protect yourself and your family members from risks of illness, by obtaining a mediclaim policy.

R.Parthasarathy wrote at 06-09-2014 5:59 pm:

 X Bipartite meet
It is also informed that MOF officials will meet IBA officials on the 08th of this month, ahead of the date of negotiations. We hope that IBA will be given definite instructions for an early settlement of all issues including pension updation which figures in the AIBEA agenda prominently. We hope that Mr.C.H.Venkatachalam will clinch the issue for the pensioners.
 

N.Subramanian (Website) wrote at 06-09-2014 12:40 pm:

 Wage settlement
I come to know that IBA has invited all the Bank Employees Federations for wage settlement negotiations and the date fixed is 17 09 14. Source of Infn. My brother working in Andhra Bank. The question now is how the issues relating to our Bank Pensioners are going to be placed before IBA and our PENFED going to take up with our Working Staff Fedn for finding out a solution to the problems of our Bank Pensioners.In the negotions I am sure 7th Bp retirees problems will not be discussed as it is peculiar to our Bank only.
 
Comment:
Dear Mr Subramanian,
You are right in your conclusions. For a change, the UFBU has included the demands of pensioners, in their charter of demands. IBA had responded earlier by saying that they would calculate the monetary outlay involved. Let us wait for the outcome of the forthcoming negotiations. There is still a very big gap between the offer of IBA and the demands of UFBU, as regards the percentage of hike in wages.

Raj Kumar Negi wrote at 05-09-2014 7:12 pm:

 office bearers
I shall be glad if you please advise the procedure for the running of the unit.
1. The General secretary expired , Dy General secretary should officiate as General Secretary, till the next election.or some thing else.
2. The president after resign should be appointed/nominated as General secretary
and Vice president should be nominated as President.
Please advise me the next course of action

Rajkumarnegi
 
Comment: Dear Mr Negi,

We are not sure whether you are seeking our suggestion for an Unit, having a Bye Laws & Rules of the Association, or it i for a Circle Association guided by laid down Rules.

By convention, the Asstt. Gen. Secy or Dy Gen Secy can function as and perform the role of Gen Secy, in the absence or death of the Gen Secy. The question of the President stepping down and the Vice President getting nominated as President, should not arise.

However, the office bearers can be changed among existing office bearers, through a meeting of the Managing Committee or Working Committee or Governing Body, and the vacancy caused by death of one existing office bearer, can be filled up by coopting a general member, provided such an action is not prohibited by the Bye Laws & Rules.

Rohit Sharma wrote at 04-09-2014 9:13 pm:

 7th B.P. V.R.S.
Dear Mr. Sujoy Ghosh,

1. Well, i am grateful that you have responded to appease the anxieties of so many persons like me.

2. The reasons for such delay still remains a mystery.

3. Lets see how many more days will we survive this genocide of the bank and the govt bureaucrats.

4. Keep positing news. I do really thank you for remembering me.





 

S.K. Misra (Lucknow Circle) wrote at 04-09-2014 9:13 pm:

 Identity Card for Pensioners
Some one may advise what are existing instructions for issuance of I Card for pensioners, whom and where be contacted for this purpose.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Misra,
The instruction till 2009, was to issue a folding Identity card, with the pensioner's photo on the 1st inside page, and the spouse's photo on the back cover. This was to be countersigned by the AGM (PPG) at LHO.
However, the current instruction is for the pension paying branch to issue a single page Identity card, which is to be authenticated by the branch manager and need not be countersigned by AGM (PPG) at LHO.

Sujoy Ghosh (Website) wrote at 04-09-2014 12:15 pm:

 7th.BPs and Salil Ghosh
Mr.Rohit-Your post of the 15th.August 2014.No date has yet been fixed for hearing at the Division Bench of Calcutta High Court.Sujoy Ghosh
 

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 02-09-2014 8:14 pm:

 PAY DAY LOANS FOR BAD CREDIT
I think someone is posting unwanted and unwarranted mails in this forum. I am sure that this form is for discussing/disclosing pensioners' problems and more so for SBI pensioners.

I think you removed it.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Jayakrishnan,

You are absolutely right. There have been attempts, though rare, in the past too, to use this site for promoting or advertising products and services. We can only delete such posts, and discourage our members from acting upon any such claims. We are conscious of our duty to keep this site unpolluted.
Thanks for your advice.

N.Subramanian (Website) wrote at 02-09-2014 10:18 am:

 Dedn of TDS/refund of wrongful dedn made
The matter may suitably be taken up with CSPPC so that the revised IT exemption limit is incorporated in their software to ensure that no wrongful deductions towards TDS are made atleast from September onwards. Regarding deductions made even now it is not late to incorporate the change in the software and run it to identify the excess recoveris recoveries made on account of IT and can be refunded.If there is a will there is a way. It is just the matter of fixing parameters only the other things the system will take care.Even though it does not arise in my case I request the Fedn to pursue the matter with CSPPC.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Subramanian,
We agree with you entirely.

N. J. CHAVAN VICE PRESEDENT SBI PENSTIONERS ASSOCTION PUNE UNIT KOLHAPUR wrote at 02-09-2014 8:43 am:

 TDS IS DISTURBING FACTOR
PREVIOUSLY I HAD COMMENTED AND SUJESTED THAT CO SHOULD DEVELO SOFWEAR THAT THE DATE OF BIRTH IS IN PORTAL THE SENER CITSON LIMIT CAN BE ASERTEN MORE EVER WHYNOT BANK AMEND WHEN THE LIMIT IS EXTENDED TO RS 3 LACEVERY INDIAN KNOWS WHAT TIME TAKES TO GET REFUND FROM IT DEPT WHEN WE WERE IN SERVICE DUE ASSOCTE WITH SBI AND GOVT IT WAS LITTELE BEET EASIER NOW PENSTIONERS HAS LITTLE VOCE THE TAX DECTION TOOK PLACE EVERY WHERE INCLUDING OUR KOLHAPUR PENSTIONERS BUTWHERY FEW HAVE RASAISED THE VOICE THE FED SHOULD TAKE IMMEDE ACTION AND SUGGEST CO SOLUTION
 
Comment: Dear Mr Chavan,
You are absolutely right. The Federation has to take up this issue strongly, so that old and aged pensioners are not harassed unnecessarily.

PS NAYYAR wrote at 01-09-2014 6:20 pm:

 WRONGFUL DEDUCTION OF TDS AUGUST, IGNORING THE ENHANCED EXEMPT LIMIT
Sri Raghunandan T's reply
Enhanced exempt limit has been ignored, resulting in TDS. Otherwise many pensioners like me will be out of tax net as far as pension is concerned. Other Banks have effected enhanced exempt limit. Why not SBI, both CSPPC and Pension paying br say they cant refund wrongfully deducted TDS. Why our Assn, Federation have not raised it with management.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Nayyar,

As already responded, the matter needs to be taken up urgently by our Federation, so that such injustice is not meted out to pensioners.

Raghunathan.T wrote at 01-09-2014 3:57 pm:

 Sri.P.S.Nayyar's Post/TDS.
The tax deducted at source from pension is placed at the credit of the pension paying branch,which deposits the same with the concerned Tax Authorities under the branch's T A N number. The CSPPC located at Calcutta has no role in issuing Form 16 to the pensioners.The branches are required to submit quarterly returns of the TDS deducted with the Local Tax Authority.The work of submitting the relative returns to the Tax Athority is unfortunately out sourced by the branches to the Charted Accountants .Nobody in the branches bothers to verify the data given to the C A'S .As per the system if there is any discrepancy the branch has to initiate action and has to approach CDC,Belapur for correcting the error.It is only when CDC carries out the correction the correct position of actual pension payment will be reflect in Form16.

Pl.note that deducted at source during the month has to be deposited on or before 7th of next month .Therefore the information about the tax deposited will be available only after 7th of the next month.
Members should be alert and obtain every month the pension slip from the branch and if any tox is deducted then they should log in www.tdscpc.gov.in to satisfy them selves that tax deducted at source has been credited with I.T.Dept.against their PAN number and if they any error it should be brought to the notice of the branch.

Courtesy:Pensioners Mail Sept.2014 By SBIPA ,Chandigar.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Raghunathan,

We agree with you, though partially. As CSPPC is responsible for payment of pension and family pension to about 1,30,000 pensioners and family pensioners all over the country, they do have the responsibility of initiating remedial measures, when such wrongful deductions of tax are made from our meagre pension.

Affected pensioners will do well to keep track of such deductions, and bring it to the notice of their pension paying branches, for remedial action, before the amounts get credited to Govt. Account.

If relief is not given by the branches in question, the pensioners need to verify that the tax so deducted has actually been credited to the I T Deptt, against their names. Any discrepancy should be immediately brought to their notice.

PS NAYYAR wrote at 01-09-2014 1:03 pm:

 WRONFUL DEDUCTION OF TDS AUGUST PENSION
N Subramanian's reply
I talked to CSPPC on Saturday, the manager replied that 'as of now there is no instruction of the Bank'. As such they are helpless. Our pensioner colleagues in other Banks got the benefit of enhanced exempt limit in August. Why our Association, Federation is not raising the matter with management for refund of TDS to the effected pensioners. We have to wait till refund next year. All the pensioners will get a relief which FM wanted to give. Many of the pensioners will be out of the tax net.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Nayyar,

You are absolutely right. Such unwarranted deductions are like adding insult to injury. The matter should be taken up immediately.

Shripad Gudi wrote at 01-09-2014 12:06 pm:

 100% DA
A pensioner who retired as a senior executive informed me that he was told that Bank has not received any instructions from the GOI or IBA for paying 100% DA to those who retired prior to 1.11.2002
 
Comment: Dear Shri Gudi,

The matter is now sub judice. Hence, even if IBA was positively disposed, no decision is likely to emerge soon.

R PARTHASARATHY wrote at 01-09-2014 7:49 am:

 Pension updation
Recently an SMS was received by some(as informed by them in mail) stating that IBA has asked the Banks to calculate the actual cost of updation and revision of family pension. UFBU and our Federation have not referred to any such development in their websites. Pensioners like us have to guard ourselves against being misled by incorrect information into illusory oasis. The frustration level increases with every bit of positive information and subsequent denial.
 

Sudhir Suman Kumaria (Chandigarh Circle) wrote at 30-08-2014 7:59 pm:

 Pensioners’ Mail for month of September 2014‏
We have uploaded the following file, which you can be view/download from SBI Pensioners’ Association (Chandigarh Circle) official website: http://www.sbipensionerschd.com/

1. Chandigarh Circles’ Monthly Bulletin Pensioners’ Mail for the month of September 2014.

On behalf of General Secretary, SBI Pensioners’ Association (Chandigarh Circle)
 

N.Subramanian (Website) wrote at 30-08-2014 9:44 am:

 Mr Rohot Sharma's post.
I would like to clarify first of all the VRS is not to be be construed as retrenchment as in retrenchment it is almost a forced eviction fixing certain norms for sending employees out and there is no option left for the employees. Where as VRS is an offer and the option to leave or like to continue rests with the employee. Nobody was forced to accept the offer and the benefits offered were to make the offer attractive and it was not conditional and without any strings and the scheme was without any hidden agenda. Let us not adduce any other reason and make the 7th BP retirees worrying about the fate of settlement of the pension issue. Not only our bank in all other PSU Banks also the VRS has been introduced and while there is no confusion as to fixation of pension based on the last 12 months' average pay why it should be on the 6 th BP scale for the retirees from SBI.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Subramanian,
Your assessment is absolutely correct. The 7th Bipartite retirees' issue is a shameful episode, as there was a revision of pension for the pensioners from 8th Bipartite retirees (that too, w.e.f. 1st May, 2005) while the 7th Bipartite retirees were forgotten, and left in the lurch. They still get pension calculated on the pre revised salaries of 6th Bipartite. We feel that only the Courts can force the Govt. to rectify this anomaly, which strangely enough, persitsts only for SBI pensioners.

Rohit Sharma wrote at 29-08-2014 7:55 pm:

  Mr Bharath Bhushan's post /26/8/14
1. This is consider as the irony of fate - that rules the future of scores of 7th B.P. voluntary pensioners.

2. Something even sensed as a sound perception can result as a composite aspirations of the aggrieved affirmations can yield its natural force as true through the manifestation of the natural The V.R.S. policy was did not afford any hearing from those interested to agree to proceed on voluntary retirement as on old wage revision, then it could behave have been justified but in fact such significant changes brought after the agreement with the employee concerned. The consent of the retiring employee was missing and the bank silently fixed the employe's retirement scale as with old old wage revision standards. The fixing of pension basic at old rates violates Article 14 of the C.O.I. This disparity being thus perpetuated should be equated with the norms of the 7th B.P. wage revision without any further delay. This is what the popular govt is promoting to be resolved .The Bank should make it a specific agenda and have this issue structured and agreed with the approval of the bank board and secure the legal rights of the 7th B.P. V.R.S. pensioners. The penetrating into employees right is a straight forward actionable per'se a civil wrong. Wish this question of misfortune of those who were disillusioned by the bank's policy gave way to early retrenchment or disguised retrenchment with grant of old pension basic. Some one must be hearing. That enough for the moral courage to face up to the hard times as being v.r.s. category retirees .
 
Comment: Dear Mr Sharma,

We feel that the VRS issue and the deprivation of 7th Bipartite retirees in general, should not be mixed up. 7th Bipartite Pensioners of other nationalized banks are getting pension, however meagre, calculated on their 7th Bipartite salaries, unlike SBI pensioners, who still continue to suffer, by getting their pension calculated on the basis of 6th Bipartite salaries. Only the Courts can force the Govt. to rectify this glaring anomaly.
It is not correct to categorize the VRS as a retrenchment. The offer was optional for the optees.

N.Subramanian (Website) wrote at 29-08-2014 2:31 pm:

 Sri PS Nayyar pl.
Please click in Google search typing CSPPC which will lead you to furnish the branch phone no. BM's No and Fax No. of the branch to get in touch for you to proceed further. BM'sNo 9674712498,, Branch Phone 033-22265035 and FAX No 033-22176434 To what extent the particulars will be of help to U Please try. Best wishes.
 
Comment: Dear Shri Subramanian,
Thanks for sharing this information. Any pensioner, having any problems or queries, may contact our Association for help, in case they are unable to elicit any response from CAO. We will be able to help, because of our locational advantage.

PS NAYYAR wrote at 29-08-2014 11:59 am:

 TDS DEDUCION FROM PENSION OF AUGUST N Subramanian's reply
You suggested to talk to my pension paying br asking for refund of TDS. I talked to pension paying br, their reply is 'No'. Pl furnish e mail id of CSPPC so that they may be asked to refund the TDS.
 

N.Subramanian (Website) wrote at 29-08-2014 8:29 am:

 TDS dedn from pension/PS Nayyar's post
As per instructions the tax so deducted is to be remitted to the Govt account within 7 working days from the date of deduction or before 7th of the following month(to be verified which is correct) and once it is so remitted, refund can be obtained only from the IT Dept.Hence the matter has to be taken up with the tax deducting authority expeditiously . The pension payment has now been centralized the branch may not be in a position to refund the deducted amount. You know well how difficult it is to get refund from IT Department. Taking up the matter with the pension disbursement authority is worth the trouble compared to claiming refund from IT Dept. However you may inquire at the branch where you maintain your pension account whether they are vested with the authority to debit the pension disbursement branch(centralised system's account) and refund the amount. In as much as many more would have got affected you may not experience difficulty in getting re-credit.
 

PS NAYYAR wrote at 28-08-2014 8:21 pm:

 TDS FROM PENSION FOR AUGUST 2014
Income Tax exempt limit enhanced to Rs 3 lacs. Act has been passed. In spite of this TDS has been deducted from the pension of August 2014. It is unjustified. Now wait for refund next year. I could not understand why TDS has been deducted. It should be immediately refunded by the Bank.
 

N.Subramanian (Website) wrote at 28-08-2014 8:39 am:

 Mr Bharath Bhushan's post /26/8/14
With all respects my dear colleague- your subsequent clarification looks like saying even without asking THAT MY FATHER IS NOT INSIDE. May be a spelling mistake - but can it be without your knowledge.Then what is the significance of the following images of smiling faces! It can't be by mistake. However I should thank you for keeping all the disgusted and tired and frustrated pensioners of the bank with happy imaginations for some days. Keep it up and keep us happy by committing more spelling mistakes of this type in these columns. Just written in a happy mood. Certainly many good things will happen and it is expected that the wage settlement will be concluded before DIWALI and alongwith it the pension issues. Let us hope for the best.
 

bharat bhushan wrote at 26-08-2014 9:54 am:

 issue
i meant that no positive news was coming since long . there was typing mistake
 

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