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Shripad Gudi wrote at 02-07-2015 11:29 pm:

 Recommendations to revise Pension
The Bank has sent recommendations to the GOI to revise pension to 5th, 6th, 7th and 8th B.P. period vide its letter dated 27th April, 2015.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Gudi,

Our Federation had sought an appointment with our Chairman, to resolve the stalemate position in various issues concerning pensioners. The meeting has now been fixed on Monday, 6th July. We are hopeful of positive response from the Bank management on the issues mentioned by you, and other related issues.

sabyasachi chattopadhyay wrote at 02-07-2015 10:26 pm:

 outcome of your meetings
Very often we find your dist.repretatives meet in workshops/leaders meet in bank's structured meetings both assotiation and federation levels etc. We don't know whether members get any benefit out of this. Would you mind in future to make a mention the bullet points of such meetings where members' benefit of any kind however small it is, are mentioned here as you are spending association funds and/or working for members' causes. Otherwise these meetings give us NO message and we do not get any interest to go through the detailed report placed by you here. None of us is young to wait for long as it is in the case of serving associations. Regards.
 
Comment: Dear Sabyasachi,

The workshops organized by us, do not involve much funds of the Association, apart from nominal travel expenses, as all other expenses are borne by the Bank. In case of structured meetings, no expense is incurred by the Association.
As regards the workshops, these are designed primarily to have a two way communication with District representatives of the Association, and equip them with knowledge and skills to handle the queries of general members. So no outcome can be listed out. The benefit is to be assessed in the long run. Already more and more problems are being solved by these Association representatives at the Unit or District level. This is of great benefit to the Association.
As regards the agenda of Structured meetings, most of the items are specific problems concerning individual pensioners, which need Bank's urgent intervention. These cannot obviously be highlighted in our website. When general issues like medical benefits, issuance of pension slips, etc. are discussed, the outcome is circulated in the website and otherwise, through meetings, bulletins. etc.
If you are alert, you will observe that the Association is very serious and sincere about spending the funds contributed by members. The issues mentioned by you are seriously discussed among ourselves and also with the bank management representatives, and the outcome is invariably publicised.
We invite you to visit our Association's office at the Unit, Zone, or Circle, so that you have a first hand experience of the stupendous work being done by aged and infirm pensioners in our Association.

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 02-07-2015 8:02 pm:

 W.P.(C) 1875/2013
Please let us know the present status of above W.P.
 
Comment: Dear Shri Tandon,

Our Federation's case had been directed by the earlier bench (since dissolved) to figure in the first 5 items in the daily list, till it could be heard and disposed of. After the reopening of the Court, the Registrar has been approached, to ensure that this condition is complied with in the new bench to which our case is to be assigned. It is now expected to figure in the 1st 5 items in the daily list, from 10th July onwards, till it is heard for final hearing.

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer wrote at 01-07-2015 8:37 pm:

 MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT
Dear Friends,

It has come in the Times of India of date (page 7) that the pay of M.Ps are going to be increased by 100% and pension by 75%. There is also going to be hike in the daily allownce which is now Rs.2000/-.

2. It will be interesting on our part to watch within what time the proposal is approved by the Government of India. There will be nobody in either house of Parliament to raise objection to the proposal.

3. 10th BPS took 2 1/2 years to get finalised and our case for 100% nutralisation of DA and updation of pension at periodical intervals have all fallenb to deaf years.

4. Long live our demoCRAZY.
 

Sudhir Suman Kumaria (Chandigarh Circle) (Website) wrote at 30-06-2015 7:19 pm:

 Pensioners’ Mail for the month of July 2015
Dear Comrade

We have uploaded the Chandigarh Circles’ Monthly Bulletin Pensioners’ Mail for the month of July 2015, which you can be view/download from SBI Pensioners’ Association (Chandigarh Circle) official website: http://www.sbipensionerschd.com/

Please note that we upload Pensioners’ Mail on 1st of every month for that month.

Jai Ram Gupta
General Secretary
SBI Pensioners' Association
(Chandigarh Circle)
 

TApan Tarafdar wrote at 30-06-2015 5:47 am:

 publishid book about RABINDRANATH TAGORR+wantsgor income tax
I have published a book on RABINDRA NATH tagore name NANA RUPE KABIGURU
WANTS HELP FOR MY INCOME TAX. I HAVE GIVEN NEW PAN CARD FROM IT AUTHORITY BUT MY BRANCH KHSRAGPUR (00202)NOT ADJUSTING THE TAX DEDUCTE D BY BRANCH WITH IT AUTHOTITY.IFANY ONE CAN PeRSUE THE MATTER
 

V S Srinivasan wrote at 29-06-2015 10:53 pm:

  DELHI HIGH COURT W.P(CIVIL)1875/2013
Approps to the write up dated 29th June in the Readers write column by S/Shri T V Jayakrishnan and K R Saini, I have to submit that it is the usual practice of the Court, that Bench changes every six months . However I am of the view that The federation failed to realise that the GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CASE TO BE HEARD WAS LOST WHEN they prayed for submitting the amended prayer on 6th April 2015. If we go back we would find that on 29-1-2015(JANUARY) the court ordered it to be posted for hearing FOR FINAL HEARING on successive days from the beginning of April. This was sacrificed for the sake of bringing in an AMENDED PRAYER WHICH WE CAN FIND FROM THE REACTION OF THE RESPONDENTS AND THE COMMENTS OF THE JUDGES ITSELF ---AS REPORTED IN THE COURT WEBSITE----had no significant bearing on our pleadings or the status of the case. All that we have achieved has been a further delay in the hearing. We not only need a strong case but also a sound strategy. The federation keeps saying that they are taking care of all these and are doing so on the basis of the legal advice. I do not understand that when the Federation will y accept that there are WELL MEANING AND KNOWLEDGEABLE PEOPLE even outside the fed. let us pray the delay will not be considerable. Even now, it is not late and that if the Federation ensures that the case is listed for hearing early with the help of Federation’s Advocates and see that hearing is completed with out any undue adjournments and delay.
Any how let us hope for the best for the unfortunate 7th B P Retirees.
 

Ravindra KumarSyal wrote at 29-06-2015 7:53 pm:

 Medical facility
If the Association is of the Pensioners then the medical facility should be all the pensioners. Why the clause of retired , it means. Only the retired at the age of 60 have the right to alive long life & not the other pensioners. If the Associatin of pensioners then the Medical facility should be for all the pensioners,there should not be any descrimation.Hope you will realise this and will fight for all the pensioners as they have also the right to alive & if not then the Association only for retired persons.Thanks & hope with good sense.
 

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 29-06-2015 7:24 pm:

 DELHI HIGH COURT W.P(CIVIL)1875/2013
IN RESPONSE TO JAYAKRISHANAN T.V WRITE UP DATED 29TH JUNE,2015 , YOURS INFORMATION APPEARS TO BE CORRECT AS ABOVE NOTED CASE HAS NOT BEEN LISTED ON THE 29TH AND 30TH JUNE 2015 AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT AND YOUR PRESUMPTION THAT CASE WILL BE HEARD BY DIVISIONAL BENCH NO 5 IS ALSO APPEAR TO BE CORRECT BECAUSE THIS CASE HAD BEEN HEARD BY ONE OF THE DIVISION BENCH JUDGE SHRI RAVINDER BHATT IN 2014 UP TO SEPTEMBER ,2014 AND AFTERWARDS PENSION RULES HAS BEEN COVERTED TO PENSION REGULATIONS ON 18.09.2014 AND ARGUMENTS ON PENSION REGULATIONS HAS NOT BEEN STARTED YET BY THE BOTH THE PARTIES (PETITIONERS AND RESPONDENTS) .
K.R.SAINI
 

Jayakrishnan T.V. wrote at 29-06-2015 6:47 pm:

 SBI PENSIONERS' FEDERATION-Delhi High Court-W.P.(C) 1875/2013
Due to change in roster of judges (after summer vacation), new Divisional Benches were formed for the current year. Upon perusal of roster, I presume that the above case will be heard by Divisional Bench V (Court No. 5). Names of Judges are: Hon’ble Mr. Justice S. Ravindhra Bhat and Hon’ble Ms. Justice Deepa Sharma.
The above bench was not in session on 29th June 2015. It has a sitting today but our case do not find a place.

If any of the colleagues have more information on this, that may please be communicated to “tvjkrishnan@yahoo.com”
 

R.Swaminathan. wrote at 29-06-2015 3:23 am:

 court case in delhi high court
Please advise the outcome of hearing dated 29th june 2015. Can the seventh bipartite retirees have hopes of verdict during the lifetime. Is the bank very adamant?
 

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 27-06-2015 9:18 pm:

 GOOD WILL PACKAGE TO ELDERS ON 1.07.2015
THANKS,AS SUITABLE REPLY TO MY QUIRY HAS BEEN PROVIDED EVEN THEN I REQEST THAT A MESSAGE CAN BE CONVEYED TO TOP MANAGEMENT AT CORPORATE OFFICE THROUGH THE CHIEF GENERAL MANAGER OF THE BENGAL CIRCLE FOR REMOVING THE ANOMALIES IN 5TH,6TH,7TH AND 8TH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENTS AS MORE THAN 5 MONTHS HAS PASSED WHEN BANK ADVISED THE PENSIONERS'FEDERATION IN THE STRUCTURED MEETING HELD ON 22ND JANUARY,2015 AND ALMOST ALL PENSIONERS ARE NOW IN THE AGE GROUP OF 68 YEARS TO 88 YEARS OLD.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Saini,

We have noted your suggestion. We shall update any development.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 27-06-2015 12:19 am:

 BANK'S 60TH FOUNDATION DAY AND GOODWILL PACKAGE TO ELDERS ON 1.07.2015
IT IS GOOD THAT BANK HAS INVITED PENSIONERS ASSOCIATION BENGAL CIRCLE ON FOUNDATION DAY .OUR PRESIDENT OF PENSIONERS 'FEDERATION WILL ALSO ATTEND THE FUNCTION AND HE SHOULD PURSUE THE BANK IF IT REALY WANTS TO HELP THE ELDERS ABOVE 80YEARS OLD THEN REVISE THE PENSION OF 5TH AND 6TH BIPARTITE RETIREES AS THESE ELDERS CONSIST OF FROM 5TH AND 6TH BIPARTITE SETTLEMENT AND RETIRED UP TO 1.07.1995.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: Dear Mr Saini,

The anomalies of 5th 6th 7th and even 8th Bipartite settlements, cannot be resolved by Circle CGMs even if there exists a rapport between the Association and local Bank management. These glaring anomalies have to be repaired by the Bank's top management at Corporate Centre, either with or without the concurrence of the Govt. of India.

TNR Nair wrote at 26-06-2015 3:15 am:

 Bank's 60th Foundation Day
Really glad to know that Bengal Circle pensioners are being invited for Bank's functions. Ruefully, that is not the case in all other circles. I can vouchsafe for Kerala Circle no such thing has happened in my 15 years of retirement. So within the Bank we have different attitude towards pensioners.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Nair,

We feel that the key factor is the rapport and mutual respect built up by Circle Associations, over the years, with the Circle Management. We are also having two day residential workshops for District representatives of Pensioners' Associations, every year. This has been extended to Zonal levels too. Moreover, we are having two Structured meetings with the Circle Management on issues concerning pensioners. This too has been extended to the different Zones. All this has been achieved by developing excellent relationship with the management representatives. This can be emulated by other Circles.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 26-06-2015 3:02 am:

  W.P (CIVIL) 1875/2013 --OUR FEDERATION'S COURT CASE
THE ROSTER OF SITTING JUDGES OF DELHI HIGH COURT HAS BEEN CHANGED WITH EFFECT FROM 29TH JUNE,2015.THIS MEANS OUR ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE WILL NOW BE HEARD BY DIFFERENT BENCH OF TWO JUDGES.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: Dear Mr Saini,

We had already indicated this in our report on this website, in May, 2015. It is our misfortune that the bench which had given a favourable judgement to a single pensioner, had to be dissolved, and we could not benefit from this bench.

RAM.M wrote at 25-06-2015 8:28 am:

 PENSION 9TH BIPARTITE
IS THERE ANYBODY WHO HAS RETIRED ON 31/01/2008 AS MM II AND THE LAST DRAWN SALARY WAS B.P. 33,300==,,F.P.P 900- AND P,Q.A 1,030-. THE PERSON SHOULD DRAW PENSION AS RS.16,715=. BECAUSE A PART OF SALARY COMES UNDER 8TH BIPARTITE AND A PART OF SALARY COMES UNDER 9TH BIPARTITE THE AVERAGE SALARY COMES DOWN TO SCALE I PAY. AS A RESULT THE BASIC PENSION GETS REDUCED. HERE THE PENSION IS FIXED AS 15750-. PLEASE COMMENT ON THIS.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Ram,

Pension is calculated on average salary for last 12 months prior to retirement. Here, the last 12 months' salary will include only 3 months of revised salary of 9th Bipartite and 9 months' salary of 8th bipartite. Hence, the pension will be less than those getting pension exclusively on 9th Bipartite salary.

V MADHAVAN wrote at 25-06-2015 2:06 am:

 SBI 60TH BIRTHDAY
The SBI will be shortly celebrating its 60th Birth day. It will be pleasure to know if any of the Pensioners has received an invitation from his pension paying Branch/ Local Head Office or Corporate Center. Long live the HRD concepts of the Bank
 
Comment: Dear Mr Madhavan,

We in the Pensioners' Association in Bengal Circle are invited by the Bank on various occasions, including the Bank Day.

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 23-06-2015 4:30 am:

 Good Will Pacage - 60th Anniversary of SBI
GOODWILL PACK – 60th anniversary of SBI
Thanks for appreciating my line of thinking. This is the high time to hit the iron when it is hot. Our senior friends who spent golden days of their life the bank, now the Bank/GOVT deceiving them. The Bank is offering them a LOLLY POP as dishonorable gift at the age of 80 plus out of their own funds cheated by the Bank. A huge amount of pension & Dearness Allowance of 30000 loyal & devoted workers is hold by the Bank for the last 15/17 years in spite of several court decisions.
Now the Bank is offering petty amounts as Good Will pack to our senior colleges at the time of 60th anniversary of its inception. Our federation should not only appeal to the seniors of above 80 years to openly refuse to accept the disgraceful goodwill pack but also say to the Bank that we are not baggers. If the Bank has least respect to their workers it may be a good gesture by the Bank to concede on the eve of the 60th anniversary of formation of SBI the just & reasonable Demand of 30000 & odd 7th Bipartite retirees not withstanding the status of the pending court cases. The progressive thinking Govt. under the dynamic leadership of Shri Narendra Modi Ji should also not stand on false prestige and give approval for the Bank’ proposal for revision of pension of 5th, 6th and 7th BPS retirees forthwith. If the announcement comes on the eve of 1st July 2015 that is 60 years of inception of SBI, it will be more than the Good Will Package offered to just a few hundreds of pensioners who have crossed 80 years and above. The gesture will be cherished by more than 15000 surviving 7th BPS pensioners of 30000 and odd eligible pensioners (patiently waiting for more than 15 years) can be expect that some good sense will prevail on the Top Management of the Bank and the officials of the Finance Ministry and RBI in this regard.??


Gopal Ji Tandon --- Mob. No. 9548982329
 
Comment: Dear Shri Tandon,

We feel that the "Goodwill package" should not be perceived as a compensation for the sufferings faced by thousands of pensioners. The package and removal of pension anomalies are two different matters. Refusal to accept "lollypops" will not result in improvement of pension, which is not in the sole control of the Bank. Let us wait and see how the Bank responds to our Federation's demands either on its own or at the instance of Courts.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 22-06-2015 8:39 pm:

 W.P NO 2353/2014 MR JAIPURIER(7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES)
WITH REFERENCE TO SHRI V.S SRINIVASAN COMENT DATED 22ND JUNE,2015 WE HAVE TO WAIT TILL 5TH JULY ,2015 WHEN 12WEEKS ENDS OF THE VERDICT DATE 6TH APRIL,2015 FOR KNOWING THE EXACT POSITION IN THIS MATTER.
K.R.SAINI
 

v s srinivasan wrote at 22-06-2015 7:50 am:

 W.P NO 2353/2014 MR JAIPURIAR(7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES)
With reference to Shri KESHAV RAI SAINI's remark dated 20/06/2015 on the above, I would like to say that Shri Mukul Rahotogi, the present Attorney General, the senior most Law Officer whose position is equivalent to the Supreme Court Judge, had opined that Central Government should not file review petition if they lose the case in a High Court. This also applies to all Public Sector Units owned by the Central Government.

Mr. Mukul Rahtogi's opinion is based on the facts that since Central Government is the highest litigant in all most all cases, the pending cases in Supreme Court will increase and fighting a case is not only costly but time consuming, for the Union Government. This I understand has also been supported by the present Finance Minister and as well as former Union Law Minister Shri Veerappa Moily, who first mooted this idea. Even the Administrative Reforms Commission had also suggested this to the Union Government, as one of the highlights of judicial reforms. In view of the above, I do not understand on what grounds our Bank, prefer to file the Review pettition in respect of the verdict in favour Shri Jaipuriar. I wish that good sense should prevail on the top management of the Bank to honorably accept the verdict in favour of Shri Jaipuriar.






 

MENINO FURTADO wrote at 22-06-2015 12:33 am:

 THANKS
Thanks to all for appreciating my line of thinking. Our Fed comprises of intelligent and dynamic leaders. Let us repose our faith in their negotiating skills. Our victory is assured. Regards and due respects to all my matured & knowledgeable colleagues. I am honored to be in your company.
 
Comment: Dear Menino,

We appreciate your way of thinking. You need not always agree with our views. But respecting others' view points is expected from aged pensioners like ourselves. Belittling and blaming some leaders, as is done occasionally by some of our pensioner readers, will not benefit anyone. Please keep writing, suggesting and also criticizing, so that we can improve further.

udayan dasgupta wrote at 21-06-2015 9:12 am:

 7th BPS &Pension Updation
Menino Furtado is very much hopeful & so I am.
 

MENINO FURTADO wrote at 21-06-2015 5:23 am:

 hi
I request our learned and mature members not to get agitated on account of delay in settling our issues. Our Fed is managing the issue well and let us all stand by them. Giving calls for agitation may only increase blood pressure of our older members. Let us wait patiently. Our victory is assured. Regards and respects to all.
 
Comment: Dear Menino,

We welcome and appreciate your mature and rational response.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 20-06-2015 8:46 pm:

 W.P NO 2353/2014 MR JAIPURIAR(7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES)
KINDLY CLARIFY US WHETHER REVIEW PETITION HAS BEEN FILED BY BANK BEFOREE THE SAME BENCH WHO GAVE VERDICT OR BEFORE A LARGER BENCH OTHER THAN THE DOUBLE BENCH WHO GAVE VERDICT IN FAVOUR OF JAIPURIER.
K.R.SAINI
 

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 20-06-2015 5:42 pm:

 W.P.No.2353/2014 Mr. Jaipuriar (7th Bipartite Retiree) Vs State Bank of India - Delhi High Court
I was informed that Bank has gone for a review and it is to be heard on 3rd July 2015.
 

BS Chahal wrote at 20-06-2015 5:30 am:

 7th BPS AND PENSION UPDATION
To me it appears that our lawyer is not presenting our case forcefully especially when individual cases filed by employees of our bank has since been decided in their favour by the High Courts.What is the reason. IF SO what is next course of action,cant' we sit on dharna at Jantar Manter at new delhi and at Corporate Office at Mumbai simultaniously at both places. Whatever our leaders must decide quickly and should not waste any time any more.Our senior members have lost their passions as well as health.So please think fast and do something.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Chahal,

We believe in collective functioning and organizational discipline. We shall abide by organizational decisions taken by the Association on local issues and by the Federation on national issues, even if such decisions are not to our individual liking. Moreover, we shall refer our individual wishes to these collective bodies for consideration and possible implementation. Sporadic efforts by individual pensioners, howsoever passionate and sincere, are not likely to make any impact.

dhanabalan wrote at 19-06-2015 11:49 pm:

 pensioners plight
Refeerring to Mr.MGIyer post the correct situation has been brought in black and white. Disuinity and egoism among groups has been very cleverly handled by iba/banks
/govt and we have been thrown to almost undeclared poverty Honestly question ourselves whether we are able to maintain correct standard life and keep our wards financilly happy. He has given the right step -- Revolution after 1st july by dharna in front of all sbi branches,
 
Comment: Dear Mr Dhanabalan,
We believe and practise collective functioning and organisational discipline, even when organisational decisions are not to our individual liking.
We shall participate whole heartedly in any agitational call given by our Association on local issues, or Federation on national issues.
We request earnestly that this website is not used for circulating any call for any action, by any group of pensioners, howsoever noble the purpose might be.

M.G.Iyer wrote at 19-06-2015 9:13 pm:

 DELHI HIGH COURT CASE No.1875/2013
Dear Sir,

While transferring the captioned case after a long period of two years to High Court of Delhi, the Supreme Court of India had directed the High Court of Delhi to settle the case and pronounce judgement/order within a period of 6 months on which the file is received by Delhi High Court and also not to call for any additional information or particulars.

2. But sorry to say, the case is dragging even after a period of 24 months. THIS IS THE INDIAN WAY OF IMPARTING JUSTICE. THE BEST WAY TO DENY A PERSON HIS RIGHTS IS TO FILE A CASE IN ANY HIGH COURT IN INDIA.An order of the Supreme Court has been treated with neglect, which tantamount to contempt of Court.

3. Committed judiciary, jucicial activism and political influence in the appointment of judicial officers have spoiled the dignity of
Indian Judiciary. When judges have political ambitions like becoming governors of states, ambassador to other countries, elevation to Apex Court etc, we may even fear the worse. I sincerely invoke the British National Anthem "God save ..................land".

3. For a common man, judiciary is the last ray of hope in these days of corruption and nepotism by politicians and the so called Bureaucrats who are their stooges and second fiddle players.

4. DELAY IN IMPARTING JUSTICE IN INJUSTICE

With revolutionary greetings,.

M.G.Iyer.

 
Comment: Dear Mr Iyer,

We do appreciate your feelings in this rather frustrating environment. The time limit of 6 months fixed by Supreme Court was not heeded by the Div Bench of Delhi High Court, even when the fact was brought to their notice. Beyond pointing out such aberrations, petitioners are helpless before the Court. Justice delayed is justice denied. But better tolerated than fought against, specially when the adversary is the High Court.
Let us hope for the best and continue our fight.

TNR NAIR wrote at 19-06-2015 8:30 pm:

 7th bipartite retirees
fight for pension equality for almost 15 years will serve to students of law and public a classic case study in subverting a reasonable demand.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Nair,

Indian Judiciary is complimented for its independence, and condemned for its delaying processes. We are beneficiaries and at times victims.

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 19-06-2015 11:29 am:

 7th bipartite
5 और 6 बीपीएस बोर्ड में वृद्धि और 100% डीए एन
मैं चिंतित Fedn / Assn सरकार के पास लंबित एसबीआई सेवानिवृत्त लोगों के ऊपर दो लंबित मुद्दों की स्थिति क्या है प्रतिनिधि से जानना चाहूंगा।
 
Comment:
Dear Mr Tandon,

We shall update any further development in this regard.

dhanabalan wrote at 19-06-2015 4:13 am:

 pensioners plight
referring to to the post of Shri.Gopalji Tandon my request made orally to chennai circle office bearers to conduct peaceful dharna on the day of pension before chennai LHO was not at heard.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Dhanabalan,

Individual pensioners can make pleas to the collective bodies, but only the latter has the right to take decisions. At times, it might appear frustrating, but one has to abide by organizational discipline in any collective movement.

g,venkatachalam wrote at 18-06-2015 8:08 pm:

 5th and 6th bps increase in pension and 100 % DA N
I would like to know from the concerned Fedn/Assn reps what is the status of the above two pending issues of SBI retirees pending with the government.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Venkatachalam,

We have uploaded some correspondence initiated by our Federation in this regard. We shall post any development, as soon as we get authentic news.

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer wrote at 18-06-2015 7:42 pm:

 7th Bipartite Pensioners.
Dear Shri Madhavan,

With reference to your post of the 18th, I do not have the reference number of the letters/recommendations as these are not made available by Corporate Centre to anybody.

2. I gathered the information regarding marginal increase to 5th and 6th Bipartite Pay Scale retirees from the website of our Mumbai Circle Association where it appeared under the head "Latest News" in October 2013.

3. Regarding 100% nutralization of D.A., please refer to the post dated 18.03.2015 by Shri B.S.Chahal in this site and the comment appended thereto.

4. Kindly do the needful.

Yours faithfully,

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Iyer,

We thank you for your polite and helpful post.

V MADHAVAN wrote at 18-06-2015 5:17 pm:

 7TH BPS RETIREES OF SBI.
I request Mr M G Iyer to throw more light on the recommendation of the Bank referred to in the second paragraph of his writings on 18th June - like the reference number of the recommendation, subject matter and date of the recommendation to pursue it under the RTI Act, 2005
 

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer wrote at 18-06-2015 4:17 pm:

 7TH BPS RETIREES OF SBI.
Dear Friends,

This is with reference to and in support of the sentiments and ray of good hope expressed by Shri V.S.Srinivasan in this site on 18th June.

2. While there is nothing wrong in being an optimist, why should not we bring to books the inaction of the so called "Officials" of the Finance Ministry over the recommendations of the State Bank of India. We have not yet freed ourselves from the clutches of bureaucracy which is a legacy of the British Rule.

3. As prospective benefactors of the recommendations made by the State Bank of India, we have got every right to know what happened to the Bank's recommendations at the hands of the bureaucracy. As the only way to know what has happened or what is happening, let us invoke the provisions of the Right to Information Act and call for the action taken as also the reason for the unpardonable delay in conveying sanction.

Yours faithfully,

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer.
 

v s srinivasan wrote at 18-06-2015 8:10 am:

 7th BPS Retirees
Approps the views expressed by Sarvashri Gopal Ji Tando and Keshav Rai Saini on the plight of 7th Bipartite Retirees,I am of the view that it will be a good gesture by the Bank to concede on the eve of the 60th Aniversary of formation of SBI, the just and reasonable demand of the 30000 and odd 7th BPS Retirees not withstanding the status of the pending court cases. The progressive thinking Govt under the dynamic leadership of Shri Modiji should also not stand on false prestige and give approval for the Bank's proposal for revision of pension of 5th, 6th and 7th BPS retirees forthwith. If the announcement comes on the eve of 1st July 2015 that is 60 years of inception of SBI, it will be more than the GOODWILL package offered to just a few hundreds of pensioners who have crossed 80 years and above. The gesture will be cherished by more 15000 surviving 7th BPS pensioners of the 30000 and odd eligible pensioners (patiently waitaing for more than 15 years). Can we expect that some good sense will prevail on the Top Management of the Bank and the Officials of the Finance Ministry and RBI in this regard??
 
Comment: Dear Mr Srinivasan,

We feel that the goodwill gesture of the Bank for our super senior pensioners, should not be mixed up with the injustice done to our pensioners by various Govts, specially the 7th Bipartite ones and those who retired even earlier. Various recommendations of our Bank have been ignored by various Govts. We are still not losing hope, and are continuing our struggle.

M. Gopalaktishna Iyer wrote at 17-06-2015 9:13 pm:

 7th Bipartite Pensioners.
Dear Friends,

This refers to the voice raised by Sarvashri Gopal Ji Tando and Keshav Rai Saini on the plight of 7th Bipartite Retirees.

2. While I do endorse and ardently support the call given by Shri Tandon requesting all our elders (above the age of 80) to openly refuse to accept the small coin or piece of bread in the form of GOODWILL PACKAGE, I request the office-bearers of our circle unions to advise the elderly members not to accept the LOLLY POP and sacrifice their self-respect.

Yours faithfully,

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Iyer,

Let us not mix up the two issues. The goodwill package, however meagre, is a gesture of the Bank on its 60th anniversary, to our super senior pensioners. The meagre amounts will be automatically credited to their pension accounts, without any application. The deprivation and injustice meted out to pensioners, specially the old ones, is more the handiwork of the Govt. than the Bank management.
Let us continue to fight for our self respect separately.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 17-06-2015 8:48 pm:

 7th bipartite retirees
IN RESPONSE TO SHRI GOPAL JI TONDON WRITE UP DATED 17TH JUNE,2015 AS YOU ARE AWARE THAT 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES ARE SUFFERING DOUBLY FOR THE LAST 17 YEARS AND NOW ALL THE 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES ARE IN THE AGE OF 70 YEARS TO 77YEARS OLD AND ALMOST 98% GETTING MAXIMUM PENSION LESS THAN RS19000/PER MONTH AND THEY ARE NOT GETTING 100%D.A NEUTRALIZATION WHILE 8TH,9TH,AND 10TH BIPARTITE RETIREES ARE GETTING UNIFORM D.A I.E 100% D.A NEUTRALIZATION AND BANK/GOVERNMENT SHOULD PROVIDE THEM(7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES) BENEFITS-BYGIVING APPROVAL OF REVISION OF PENSWION FOR7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES.
GOOD WILL PACKAGE IS ONE TIME MEASURE WHAT ABOUT OTHER PENSIONERS WHO WILL BECOME 80YEARS OLD AFTER 1.07.2015 WHY BANK/GOVERNMRENT IS NOT REVISING THE PENSIONOF 5TH AND 6TH BIPARTITE RETIREES AS WHO THOSE ARE ELGIBLE FOR THIS PACKAGE ARE 5TH AND 6TH BIPARTIITE RETIRES WHO RETIRED BEFORE 1.07.1995? IT IS REALY A LOLLY POP BY PROVIDING GOOD WILL PACKAGE ONE TIME ONLY.IF BANK IS REALY WANTS TO RESPECT THE ELDERS THEN REVISE THE PENSION OF 5TH AND 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES AS IN THEIR CASE PENSION HAS NOT BEEN REVISED BY THE BANK/GOVERNMENT.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: Dear Mr Saini,

We feel that the "lollypop" is a decision of the Bank management, while the injustice meted out to the retirees of 7th and earlier Bipartites, is a result of the totally unhelpful and vindictive attitude of various Govts, who have either ignored the recommendations of the bank or have sabotaged them.
Let us continue to fight our battle in the Court, while trying to negotiate.

R.Parthasarathy wrote at 16-06-2015 5:46 pm:

 7th Bipartite Pensioners
We are happy to note that thanks to this well organised website awareness is spreading among the SBI Pensioners who are unjustly at the receiving end all the time. Mr.Gopalakrishna Iyer has claimed revision on the basis of the judgements in favour of Mr.Jaipuriar and Mr.Salil Ghosh. Several others including our Srirangam group have submitted simlar claims. Our request to the Federation: Kindly find out whether the judgments have been executed by the Bank. If so, kindly convince the Bank that there is no justice in revising the pension selectively and under duress. Revision is to be carried out for all on the existing guidelines followed up to the 10th bipartite settlement. This matter is no longer sub judice. The Bank can go ahead and revise pension for all the 7th bipartite pensioners. The Federation can continue with its case asking for 50 percent of last drawn pay as pension for all.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Parthasarathy,

We thank you for your valued opinion. We do not however feel that any positive response can come about from submission of individual claims, on the basis of orders in non representative writ petitions. We are hopeful that our Federation will be able to negotiate some benefits for us, from the Bank management.

A.R.Chandrasekharan wrote at 16-06-2015 5:35 am:

 structured meeting
Dear Sir,

At least will the Federation will find out wether the Bank obyed the order of the Delhi High
dated 06.04.2015 and paid the arrears to the family
 
Comment: Dear Mr Chandrasekharan,

The Court orders in the individual cases at Delhi and Kolkata, will, in our opinion, not benefit the thousands of 7th Bipartite pensioners who have been cheated for the last 15 years. The orders cannot be cited for claiming benefits from the Bank. Remedy has to come from the collective petition.

M. Gopalaktishna Iyer wrote at 16-06-2015 3:45 am:

 WP(C) 2353/2014 DELHI HIGH COURT ORDER DATED 06.04.2015
Dear Shri Tandon,

This has reference to your posting in this site on the captioned subject.

I downloaded a copy of the Order of the High Court and had a discussion with a leading lawyer of the High Court of Karnataka. In his opinion the Bank cannot appeal against the Order asthe petioner i.e., Shri Jaipuriar withdrew his petition only upon a commitment made by the Bank's lawyers to accede to his prayer. In the circumstances, the only way for the Bank is to make payment.

2. I am also an officer who voluntarily retired on 30.04.1998. I have sent a claim to State Bank of India, Local Head Office, Thiruvananthapuram, who, have forwarded my claim to our Corporate Centre, Mumbai.

3. I note to keep the developments posted in this site on hearing from Corporate Centre.

Yours faithfully,

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer.

 
Comment: Dear Mr Iyer,

Please keep us informed of further developments in respect of your individual claim.

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 16-06-2015 1:30 am:

 W.P(C) 2353/2014 Delhi HighCourt Order dated 06.04.2015
Can anybody let the pensioners know as to whether the Bank is going to make payment as per High Court order or going for appeal against the judgement
 
Comment: Dear Mr Tandon,

We shall post any news or development in this regard, as soon as we get some authentic news.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 15-06-2015 11:46 pm:

 DISPARITIES IN PENSION OF SBI RETIREES
A LARGE NUMBER OF PENSIONERS FROM INDIA'S LARGET BANK,STATE BANK OF INDIA ,continue to draw their pension at pre-revised salary(7th bipartite retirees) FOR THE LAST 17YEARS AND NOW ALL PENSIONERS OF THIS GROUP ARE ABOVE 70 YEARS OLD AND THEY ARE GETTING PENSION @ 27% OF THE LAST DRWN SALARY.WHILE THE BANK'S REGULATIONS CURRENTLY FIXED PENSION FOR 6TH,8TH,9TH AND NOW FOR 10TH BIPARTITE RETIREES.KINDLY ADVISE USWHY THIS DISPARITY FOR THOSE WHO RETIRED BETWEEN 1.04.1998 TO31.10.2002 I.E FOR 7TH BIPARTITE RETIREES?.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: Dear Mr Saini,

We feel that the situation for the 7th Bipartite retirees numbering over 33000 (which included the large number of VRS retirees of 2001) is different from the retirees of 5th 6th and partly 8th Bipartite retirees. It is shameful, that the 7th Bipartite retirees of other nationalized banks have been getting pension (those who opted) on the basis of their 7th Bipartite salaries, while their counterparts in SBI continue to get pension on their 6th Bipartite salaries. The remedy is an order from the Court, as Govt will not do anything otherwise.

The anomaly for the earlier and later retirees in our bank, is because of the arbitrary ceilings imposed from time to time, as a result of which some pensioners are getting 25% of their last drawn salaries, as pension. This issue has to be sorted out separately by the Bank. We believe that the process has been initiated by the present Bank management.

R.Parthasarathy wrote at 15-06-2015 5:35 pm:

 7th Bipartite Pensioners
Dear Editor,
This has reference to my message dated 10.6.15. Blame game: Sir, we are not playing a game. We are fighting against an injustice which threatens our financial survival. It is not a question of meaningless blaming. It is just a critical opinion to be discussed. We should discuss where the problem area is if we fail to get what we have to get for more than a decade. The leadership has written letters recently to MOF,the Bank and affiliates. The stress again is on 50 percent (first priority) benefiting 20 percent of the affected ones. Let us first get for all pension linked to last drawn pay and this takes care of 80 percent of the affected ones totally. Then the struggle for 50 percent can continue. Why should the issues be linked- this only leads us in to the dark legal jungles in the unstable Indian judicial delivery system.
 

Shripad Gudi wrote at 14-06-2015 9:05 pm:

 Responding to Mr. I.D. Wadhwani, Pensioners' Association, Jaipur Unit
Shri Pavan B. Durgannavar, Belgaum (Karnataka) has won a case at the Hon.S.C. and got salary and allowances which was recovered by the Bank. His contact number is 09886271130. Mr. Wadhwani may please contact him directly for details. I am Shripad Gudi. May email id is shripadgudi@gmail.com
 

I.D.WADHWANI PENSIONERS ASSO.JAIPURUNIT wrote at 14-06-2015 6:42 pm:

 OFFICER RETIRED UNDER VRS AS ON 31.3.2001 WHOSE DATE OF BIRTH IS 01011946 BERTH
RETIREMENT UNDER ABOVE VRS SCHEME WHOSE DATE OF BIRTH IS 01011946 HAS BEEN GIVEN AFTER ONE AND HALF YEAR AND SALARY AND OTHER BENEFITS HAS BEEN RECOVERED OF ONE AND HALF YEAR. I HAVE COME TO KNOW THAT YOUR UNIT HAS WON THE CASE THROUGH COURT AND GET ALL THE BENEFITS BACK WITH OVERDUE INTEREST. IF SO PLEASE FORWARD A COPY OF JUDGEMENT AND TO TAKE UP THE MATTER TO GET THE BENEFIT TO OUR MEMBERS. PLEASE TREAT THE MATTER AS MOST URGENT WE ARE ASEWAITING YOUR RESPONSE THANKYOU SIR
 
Comment: Dear Mr Wadhwani,

We are not sure whether you are referring to the recent Calcutta High Court order in the Salil Ghosh case. The Bank has not yet complied. We are waiting for the Bank to formally report compliance or otherwise, in the Court.

BS Chahal wrote at 14-06-2015 5:09 pm:

 Pension updation and 10 BPS
PLEASE REFER TO AIBOC LETTER DATED 12.6.2015 SENT BY SHRI HARVINDER SINGH GENERAL SECRETARY ADDRESSED TO CHAIRMAN IBA REGARDING BANK RETIREES AND TAKE A NOTE OF THE CONTENTS OF THE LETTER IF THESE CAN BE HELPFUL IN OUR COURT CASES AND WHILE NEGOTIATING WITH OUR MANAGEMENT.REGARDS.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Chahal,

We thank you for your suggestion. We hope that our Federation will take note of it.

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer wrote at 13-06-2015 1:51 am:

 RESERVE BANK OF INDIA & GOVT OF INDIA AND SBI PENSIONERS
Dear Sir,

Of late, we observe that anything and everything concerning pensioners of State Bank of India arebeing forwarded by State Bank of India to Reserve Bank of India and Government of India.
2. Usually, even in the writ petition No.1875/2013 filed in the High Court of Delhi, the opinion or views of the Reserve Bank of India are not different from that of the Government of India.

2. When the State Bank of India is handany amendment is made through a resolution of the Central Board of the State Bank of India and ratified by the Reserve Bank of India and Government of India, what is the big need for referring each and every issue to the above-mentioned two authorities. Although other banks are also just like State Bank of India as far as ownership and statutory control is concerned, their matters are not referred to them and the decision is taken at bank level and thus things are expedited. Only in the case of SBI pensioners, their issues although favourably recommended to the Government of India and clarifications wherever applicable are promptly cleared, the file never gets a stamp of approval from the Government of India.

3. We should, therefore, do something, if necessary by invoking the High Court or Supreme Court of India, to see that the Central Office (Corporate Centre) is the sole authority to take decisions in compliance with the provisions of SBI Provident Fund Rules in force at the material time.

Yours faithfully,

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer.
 

BS Chahal wrote at 12-06-2015 6:18 pm:

 Pension updation and 10BPS
Dear friend, while I agree with you that Politicion are helpful only in those cases where they have their personal interest but now the scienario is changed Rahul is in opposition and wants to take only those cases in which present Govt.is not taking interest.You can see the three cases one is the case of Safai Karamcharies of MCD Delhi,Farmers of UP and Punjab etc.Now he says that he has ample time and can sit at Dharna alongwith Safai Karamcharies.Anyhow you are wise and wisdom prevails on you.
 

SUBRATA KUMAR DUTTA wrote at 12-06-2015 8:54 am:

 MINIMUM PENSION BASIC PAYABLE TO AN OFFICER
WHAT WILL BE THE MINIMUM PENSION BASIC PAY FOR AN OFFICER AFTER PUTTING IN 33 YEARS' SERVICE - ON RETIRING AFTER 60 YRS OF AGE?
 
Comment: Dear Subrata,

Pension for officers is calculated @ 40% (not 50% as in case of Award staff retirees) subject to a minimum amount, of the average Basic pay drawn in the last 12 months of service. 30 years of service is taken as the index, and additional years put in, do not count. For officers, even 30/60 i.e. 50% is not given as pension, and the 40% formula is used. However, 50% of FPA and PQA is added to the amount arrived at.

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