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|M. Gopalakrishna Iyer, wrote at 09-02-2016 20:18:|
| DELHI HIGH COURT CASE No.1875/2013.|
Please refer to the Web Administrator's comment to my post dated 09.02.2016. It seems as if I have done some crime or sin in telling our Penfed Counsel to request the Court not to allow any adjournments to the GOI/RBI/SBI on flimsy grounds such as "ASG is preoccupied" etc.These people butter polish many VIPs but we have not got any tangible benefits. While in service many people let down their own colleagues, palm grease their higher ups to achieve their own ends like getting posted to a place of choice, promotions etc. But in retired life why should you worry about such things? HABIT SELDOM DIES.
2. Let better wisdom prevail upon our Web Operators/Administrators and Penfed Office bearers to face issues with a strong spine and not praise somebody just like the case of pinning high hopes on our ex-chairman Smt. Arundhati Bhattacharya. Let us not repeat such mistakes in future. I am not bothered if somebody differs with me; but I stick to what I said, wrote and posted.
|Comment: You are not helping the cause of pensioners with your occasional uncontrolled aggressive outbursts. We believe in decency, and not butter polishing (your language) or mud slinging (our language). Habits really die hard. Let us not try to change habits of each other.|
Let us refrain from transgressing boundaries of decency and grace.
|Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 09-02-2016 19:32:|
| Domiciliary expenses - Reimbursement claim - For Policy B|
|Shri V. Neelakantan - Presuming you are from Tamilnadu State, I suggest you to go VIDAL HEALTH TPA website. Go to Claim Guide - Then go to Comprehensive Guide Management - Also go to the bottom - Select Download Forms under Tools - Select REimbursement Claim Form - Insured only and also Reimbursement Claim Form - Hospital only and dowmload forms. Normally you have to apply within a month of expenses. Form A to be filled up by you. Form B by attending Doctor/Hospital. They may evolve a new form in course of time. Also get in touch with TPAs/Anandathi Insurance Broker posted in our Zonal Offices. |
|Comment: We have received the proforma of claim forms from the insurance broker and are trying to put them up in this website, assuming that the same format will be used all over India. It will be better if pensioners contact their respective broker and TPA, as also ZO HR, as also own Circle Association.|
|V neelakantan wrote at 09-02-2016 16:41:|
| Domiciliary expenses|
|In plan B how to apply for domiciliary expenses incurred the format and other details may be given what is the period in which claim to be lodged |
|Comment: Formats of claim form (one for the pensioner and the other for the hospital) has been sent by the Insurance broker to us. But we are still not sure whether this format will be applicable for domicilliary treatement bills. Please keep in touch with the TPA and the Insurance broker as also the Circle Association in this regard. We shall upload formats as and when we are sure about their contents. |
|V MADHAVAN wrote at 09-02-2016 16:23:|
| Court case Sh. K.K. Jaipuriar|
|Apprapose the comments of the learned web administrator to the two writings of Shri Harbinder Singh on 08th instant, with all humility to the administrator, I may say "Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; teach a man to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." firstname.lastname@example.org|
|V MADHAVAN wrote at 09-02-2016 16:13:|
| SHRI K K JAIPURIAR|
|I am grateful to the web administrator for acknowledging my writing on 8th instant. But it is disappointing to note that the judgment secured by Sri KKJ is looked at in financial terms rather than on the multiple implications involved. For one, if the Bank refrains from extending a similar calculation to all the similarly placed pensioners, the Bank will have to face the wrath of Article (14) in the Constitution of India dealing with equality before law. I am sanguine that the Web administrator will concur. email@example.com|
|Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 09-02-2016 07:30:|
| FLOATER POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES - CAP ON DOMICILIARY TREATMENT|
Our Corporate centre has issued a E Circular No. CDO/P&HRD-PM/93/2015 - 16 dated 9th Feb 2016 regarding Cap on domicilary treatment - For Policy A 25 % For Policy B 15 %. Please go through the official circular for full details.
|Comment: Thanks. We had indicated this in our report on the recently held structured meeting. |
|M. GOPALAKRISHNA IYER, wrote at 09-02-2016 04:55:|
| DELHI HIGH COURT CASE No.1875/2013|
Very happy to note that something is moving with regard to the captioned case. As per this web site, the next hearing is supposed to be conducted on 17.02.2016 and the Court has instructed the respondents to be present positively on that date. If, on that day, the respondents raise some excuses like "preoccupation", '"other-wise engaged" etc. our lawyers should press the court for a decision ex-party and the court will be obliged to grant it. If our prayer is ignored by DHC, we should waste no time to approach the Supreme Court of India to hear our case as we have lost faith in DHC.
2. We can achieve something only through our solidarity because State Bank of India will spend even Rs.100 crores to deprive us of Rs.10 crores.
|Comment: We choose not to respond to these speculative impatient and hypothetical observations. |
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 09-02-2016 03:25:|
|AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,THE ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE HAs been listed on the 10th February,2016 AS UNDER BEFORE A DOUBLE BENCH NO 4--|
CM APPL 14622/2014
IST 5 CASES
THIS MEANS THE NEXT DATE OF HEARING IS 17TH FEBRUARY,2016 NOT 18.02.2016 AS ADVISED BY YOU UNDER ''CURRENT NEWS.'' KINDLY MNAKE THE CORRECTION AT YOUR END.
|Comment: We had received information that the next date would be 18th Feb. It is indeed 17th Feb, we have since corrected our post. Thanks.|
|MENINO FURTADO wrote at 08-02-2016 23:00:|
| NEW MEDICLAIM SCHEME|
|Dear Administrator, |
Thanks for the clarifications. Your website has been very helpful to us. I request my learned colleagues not to belittle the work done by the Fed leaders. This forum is for learning & development of pensioners and not for causing heart attacks / sudden BP alterations. Regards
|Comment: We appreciate your attitude and understanding, and also your wit and sense of humour.|
|svmani wrote at 08-02-2016 21:07:|
|I submitted my insurance form under Plan B and the branch issued receipt after 5 days and that too on demand. When I asked ID Card the branch official told me that it will be available in April,16. Why the issue of I'd card will take a long time. It is not clear who will issue it and how to collect? If some thing happens to the member in the meantime, how the hospital admit the patient without. I'd card even though premium is debited to me a/c immdly on submission of form. Pl.let me have your clarifications hanks. Mani|
|Comment: The branch seems to be ignorant, like many others, about the procedures. The id card will be issued very soon to policy B holders, by the TPA. Only policy A holders will get their id cards soon after migration from rembs on 1st April 2016. Till such time, policy B holders get their I'd cards, the copy of the receipted application form, with the transaction number, will be enough for getting any benefit.|
|R.LAKSHAMANA RAO wrote at 08-02-2016 20:40:|
| Details of the arguments of the Advocates of Fedn in WP(C) 1875/2013 |
Can u please let us know what was the gist of the arguments that the Fedn. Advocates put forth on the 1st and 4th of this month? Whether it is a fact that Shri.Vidya Sagar Advocate or his juniors did not attend the court on even a single day (fron 2013) when ever the case came up for hearing, consequent to which it was simply adjourned? This is despite many lacs of money having been paid to him/ them. Your comment "As regards the court case, the entire spadework was done by the former GS of our Federation, and all the affiliates put this on record and requested him to continue to monitor it even after his resignation" speaks ill of the affiliates. What was the idea of selecting the former GS who was most ineffective and was defeated as GS in the local election at Chennai. Was it becos he did not bother to haul up the Advocates for their absence as well as he did not communicate the status to any one? Did the fact that the former GS's daughter reside in Delhi, swayed the affiliates to "continue to monitor" There are many other ppl. like Shri.PPR Upadhaya (from Mysore) and Shri.D.Anthony Couto (from Kerala) who can run the show better, efficiently and who are waging a war against the Bank on their own. Your comment was in response to a mail from firstname.lastname@example.org on 8th of this month at 1.57 LAXMAN
|Comment: We shall not engage ourselves in any duel among ourselves or break our heads on these issues. Suffice to say that the former GS may have lost in the Circle election at Chennai, after which he stepped down from his post in the Federation, but his contribution to the preparation of our petition, was appreciated by all affiliates. |
We would request you and a few fellow pensioners to focus on the current court battle, instead of going on a fault finding exercise.
|Harbinder wrote at 08-02-2016 15:41:|
| Court case Sh. K.K. Jaipuriar|
|Court Case Sh. K.K. Jaipuriar is a sample case for 7th BPS retirees ( esp. for other than VRS retirees).....Pl. advise Date when Supreme court rejected SBI/GOI's appeal filed challenging DHC order in favor of Jaipuriar and date of second appeal if filed by SBI/GOI challenging Supreme court' rejection of first appeal........... |
|Comment: We are not aware of the detailed particulars of the case, beyond what we have shared, now and earlier.|
|Harbinder Singh wrote at 08-02-2016 07:30:|
| Court case sh. K.K. Jaipuriar|
|Sh. Madhvan's post Dt. 8.2.16.......pl. advise the court H/C.S/c where sh. Jaipuriar filed contempt of court case against Bank and court if Jaipuriar filed appeal against DHC'order given in favour of him......|
|Comment: We presume that the contempt petition has been filed in Delhi High Court, as the Supreme Court only rejected the appeal of the Bank and Govt. But we do not have any accurate information on the status of the case. |
|R Mahadevan wrote at 08-02-2016 04:46:|
| voluntary retirees |
|I served for 24 1/2 years in the bank and took voluntary retirement (erstwhile VR and nor VRS 2000) in the year 1995 for personal and mother's health reasons. I retired as CM(Plg)and my present basic pension is Rs.4250 and with DA it aggregates to around Rs.20000 app. Even I was denied REMBS till recently and only the present floater family mediclaim -B has given some relief. Bank only provided the scheme and voluntary retirees like me were denied everything which is unfair. I request the federation to take up our cases very strongly atleast now. Is there any hope for us to get better pension benefits as a result of the pending court cases and the 100% DA neutralisation demand etc.|
I sincerely appreciate SBIPA BC for providing this communication channel for all the members and wish that other circle associations start this in right earnest immediately.
|Comment: First, we humbly and gratefully acknowledge your kind appreciation of our effort to maintain this website.|
Now that the anomaly of not permitting health insurance cover to some pensioners like you, has been removed, we are hopeful of the other demands like 50% pension to all, and uniform DR formula for all pensioners, will also be met. The first, through the court case and the second through combined movement of all pensioners of all banks.
Additionally, the combined movement aims to achieve updation of pension and flat 30% family pension.
|V MADHAVAN wrote at 08-02-2016 03:53:|
| SHRI K K JAIPURIAR|
|DEAR SHRI ARORA your query of 7th on this site - Shri Jaipuriar has filed a Contempt of the Court Petition against the Bank. The Court has ordered "Issue notice to respondent by registered post as well as dasti, returnable for 31st March, 2016."|
|Comment: Thanks for this update. We have however, explained elsewhere, that, even if the court order is implemented, the benefit to the pensioner would be marginal, as the revised average salary over 12 months, would increase very little.|
|Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 08-02-2016 03:39:|
| FLOATER HEALTH POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES - POLICY No.|
|FLOATER POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES|
In some places when retirees contacted their TPA s for e Cards they were asked for Policy No,. issued by United India Insurance Company. Please note that the Policy No. is
For all India the policy number is the same.
|Comment: Thanks a lot for posting this important information.|
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 08-02-2016 03:38:|
|AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,ORDER OF THE COURT DATED 1.02.2016 IS AS UNDER----|
LIST ON 4TH FEBRUARY,2016 FOR FURTHER ARGUMENTS.
1ST FEBRUARY,2016 MS GITA MITTAL JUSTICE
MR I.S MEHTA justice
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 08-02-2016 02:17:|
| W.P(C) 1875/2013|
|AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,THE ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE HAS BEEN LISTED ON THE 9TH FEBRUARY,2016 AT SERIAL NO 8 BEFORE A DOUBLE BENCH NO 4.|
|R.Ramakrishnan wrote at 08-02-2016 01:57:|
|let us put our records straight.introduction of the NEW insurance scheme is not RPT not due to the efforts of our PEN FED.BUTdue to the agreement reached by UFBU& IBA.LET US CLEARLY UBDERSTAND THIS.this has been accepted by the former GS of the SBI PEN federation to me.let people not give wrong information.i do not want to dwell on how he has mishandled our court cases|
lest my post will be deleted!i am in touch withe present GS pf chennaicle
pen assn.our only hope is that the out come of the ongoing delhi high courtwhich is encouraging.let us wait with BATED BREATH FOR the outcomeof the case at delhi which is has started,regards
|Comment: Let us put the records straight. While it is true that the new medical scheme in our bank, is an offshoot of the industry level 10th Bipartite agreement, there are glaring differences between the scheme in other banks and the one in ours. Our Federation was consulted by the bank during formulation of the scheme, and their views were considered. So the Federation can take credit for the introduction of a much improved scheme. So let us not mislead our readers.The main differences are as follows :|
1. The sum assured in other banks, is Rs 3 lacs or Rs 4 lacs, while in SBI, it ranges from Rs 3 lacs to Rs 25 lacs.
2. In our bank, it is exclusively for pensioners, whereas in other banks, it is for employees and pensioners.
3. Domiciliary treatment expenses are, as of now, fully covered in our bank, while it is not uniformly so in other banks.
As regards the court case, the entire spadework was done by the former GS of our Federation, and all the affiliates put this on record and requested him to continue to monitor it even after his resignation. He has been doing that, despite his other preoccupations, at the instance of the current Offg GS of the Federation.
Let us not forget facts so easily.
|ANIL KUMAR wrote at 08-02-2016 01:52:|
| 10th bps|
|Shall we get regular revised pen from Feb 16|
|Comment: We have, in response to queries of other 10th Bipartite retirees, explained the process of revision of pension through different Circle PPG Deptts, after obtaining approval in lots, from the Trustees of Pension Fund, at Corporate Center. The number of such retirees who are eligible to have their pension revised, is a few thousand in each Circle. Moreover, this time, they will have to submit undertakings, before the process is initiated. So we feel that the completion of the process of revision may take a few months.|
|MENINO FURTADO wrote at 07-02-2016 23:27:|
| NEW MEDICLAIM SCHEME|
|In the last Ex. Committee meeting held in Pune, we are told by Mr. Gokhale, Our Circle President that The Bank has agreed to issue Receipts for the Premium paid and the Income Tax authorities will consider this amount for tax benefits. Secondly, he has clarified that Spouses of employees who die in service will be eligible for becoming members of Policy B , provided the deceased employee had put in confirmed service of 21 years and more. The stipulations laid down in Cir No. CDO/P&HRD-PM/52/2015-16 dated 29th September 2015 are obsolete now. I request the Administrator or any of my learned colleagues to give their views on these issues. |
|Comment: 1. Bank has clarified that the insurance premia paid under policy B, may be considered to be eligible for I Tax deduction, provided the I Tax authorities concur.|
2. The eligibility criteria for membership of the new medical scheme, specifies that pensioners who have put in pensionable service of 20 years, and spouses of such employees dying in harness, and drawing family pension, can become members of policy B.
|K.S.POPAT (Website) wrote at 07-02-2016 21:48:|
| CURRENT A/C PASS BOOKS FOR "P" SEGMENT CUSTOMERS|
|NOW, AS S.B.I. HAS INSTALLED PASS BOOK PRINTERS AT THEIR BRANCHES FOR UPDATION OF PASS BOOKS BY THE CUSTOMERS. IT HAS INDEED IMPROVED CUSTOMER SERVICE AND GIVE A RELIEF TO CUSTOMERS. SIMILAR EXERCISE MAY PLEASE BE EXTENDED FOR CURRENT A/C HOLDRS OF "P" SEGMENT AND PASS BOOKS MAY BE PROVIDED TO THEM SO AS TO GET THE C/AC STATEMENT DULY PRINTED IN THEIR PASS BOOK AND C/AC STATEMENTS WILL NO LONGER BE NEEDED. IT IS A CUSTOMER SERVICE DEVICE MAY PLEASE BE EXAMINED ON MERITS|
|Comment: This suggestion is not pensioner specific, and even if implemented, it is likely to benefit very few pensioners, as they generally maintain S/B A/cs. But the matter can be examined.|
|v k arora wrote at 07-02-2016 21:06:|
| Pension Payment --Arrears|
|Can it be confirmed whether Jaipuriar has received arrears of revised pension after the Bank's appeal in supreme court was dismissed ?|
|Comment: According to our knowledge, Shri Jaipuriar was marginally a 7th Bipartite retiree, and he benefited from the Supreme Court order minimally. We are however not aware of any payment of arrears to him by the bank.|
|Dhanabalan wrote at 07-02-2016 17:27:|
| hc case 1875/2013|
|I presume but please confirm that penfed counsel has included the bank conceding payment of 50% average basic as pension in the jaipuriar case.|
|Unknown (Website) wrote at 07-02-2016 05:16:|
| Pension revision|
|We are no way stand for comparison of pension to other departments, either at present or in the near future. It is only self satisfaction to consol our minds with the expect ion of some merical will happens in our life's. If at all any thing happens that is the medical insurance for all. It is a great boom for us that the only benefit our federation achieved.|
|Comment: Could you please identify yourself ? Federation will have many more achievements in the days to come. Just wait.|
|TUSHAR KUMAR MUKHERJEE wrote at 06-02-2016 04:53:|
| Death of a member|
|Amar Krishna Pal, a member of Rampurhat composite unit, passed away last night at about 11 p.m.He was 68. He is survived by his wife and three daughters. Daughters are happily married. May his soul rest in peace.|
|Comment: Our heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family and also to your unit. May his soul rest in peace. May his widow not have to wait long, to get her family pension.|
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 06-02-2016 02:54:|
|AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT CAUSE LIST OF REGULAR MATTERS DATED 8TH FEBRUARY SHOWS THE ABOVE CASE LISTED AT SERIAL NO 8 AS UNDER --|
CM APPL 14622/2014
IST 5 CASES
HOWEVER,VIRTUALLY THIS CASE WILL BE TREATED AS AT SERIAL NO 1 ON THE 9.02.2016 BECAUSE CASE AT SERIAL NO 1 FOR 1.03.2016 AT SERIAL NO 2 NOT TILL 26.02.2016 AT SERIAL NO 3 NOT TILL 10.03.2016 AT SERIAL NO 4 NOT TILL 26.02.2016,AT SERIAL NO 5 NOT TILL 19.02.2016 AT SERIAL NO 6 NOT TILL 10.02.2016 AND AT SERIAL NO 7 NOT TILL 4.03.2016.
|K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 06-02-2016 00:55:|
| court case 1875/2013 |
|I would like to know ,whether our lawyers have finished our side arguments?if so,on 9 th will the Bank's lawyer put forth his side case?|
|Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 05-02-2016 00:51:|
| FLOATER HEALTH POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES - VIDAL HEALTH TPA - TAMILNADU & KARNATAKA - ISSUE OF ID CARDS|
|Our applications for POLICY B of FLOATER POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES submitted at the branches, are being processed by VIDAL HEALTH TPA. who are the TPA for Tamilnadu and Karnataka states. It is being updated in their database in batches. It will take some more time for them to issue ID cards through our Pension Paying Branch. |
I requested their Chennai Office over phone to issue me ID card through mail. They asked for P.F. No. and verified the particulars (i.e) name/spouse name/age. I got it through mail within 2 hours.
Vidal Health TPA Private Limited
"Anmol Palani",L-2,No.88,G.N Chetty Road,
Their other offices in Tamilnadu & Karnataka and its Phone Nos. (as per their website): Coimbatore: 0422-2491335 Bangalore: 080 - 66793300 Mangalore: 0824 - 2495679 Hubli: 0836 - 580029
|Comment: Good to hear and learn that the TPA in the South, is doing a great job. |
|C P Jain wrote at 04-02-2016 21:42:|
| Family flotter insurace scheme plan A|
|I want to know (i) for cashless treatment in hospitals/nursing homes, who will issue identity card? (ii) when it will be issued? (iii) has the pensioner to apply for this? (iv) from where will we get names/list of 6000 odd hospitals?|
|Comment: For plan A, pensioners need not apply at all. As soon as migration from rembs to policy takes place on 1st April, 2016, Insurance company will arrange for issuance of Identity cards, when the list of approved nursing homes and hospitals will also be furnished. |
We feel that there is no cause for worry. Your local Circle Association should also help in need.
|K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 04-02-2016 17:35:|
| court case no.1875/2013|
|I 100% agree with the comments of SBIPABC .But why other circle associations are not as active as SBIPABC .Had these association also active as that of SBIPABC, the SBIPABC will have breathing time and more time to serve the pensioners cause. When these circle association start act like SBIPABC? I feel that there is no match for SBIPABC .|
|Comment: Thanks for appreciating the efforts and contribution of SBIPA, Bengal Circle. This gives us energy to sustain ourselves, and also the website.|
|dhanabalan wrote at 04-02-2016 17:02:|
| 7thbipartite anomaly|
|I on behalf of abt 30000 retirees salute and highly appreciate comments to mrrogit SHARMAs post. Such comments will avoid c cxrticism.please be transparent in all you replies.|
|Unknown wrote at 04-02-2016 06:06:|
| court case updates|
|thanks a lot for update of court case|
|Comment: You are welcome. But could you please share your identity ?|
|V.S. Goplakrishnan wrote at 04-02-2016 05:55:|
| Delhi High Court case|
|I fully endorse the views/compliments offered by Mr.K.V. Lakshmanan. I was greatly relieved by the updated news reg. the DHC case. If only the PENFED had come out with similar updates earlier, the anxieies, tensions, unnecessary suspicion about the persons involved, bickerings by some of the pensioners, could have been totally avoided. Anyway, better late than never. I take this opportunity to express my grateful thanks to the administrator for the news. I am sure this is the feeling in the minds of several pensionrs who have been tracking this matter. Undoubtedly this is the only site offering such yeomon service. Please keep up the excellent work. Thank you again and again.|
|Comment: Thanks for your kind appreciation and encouragement. Such responses to our humble efforts act as health tonics to aged pensioners like us. |
|K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 04-02-2016 05:24:|
| court case no.1875/2013|
|Dear website administrator, thank u very much for your court case update in current news column of your website.we expect only this kind of prompt service from other affiliates also but it is not forthcoming. Hence we have to trouble you. Once again thank u very much for your prompt service.|
|Comment: We are aged pensioners, ourselves. But we try to rise above the usual limitations of age, and try to serve fellow pensioners, in a sincere manner. When readers like you, appreciate our humble efforts, we regain the depleted energy. Thanks for your thanks. It means a lot to us.|
|Rogit Sharma. wrote at 04-02-2016 03:38:|
| Revision of basic pension of empoyees retired under the special voluntary retirenet schme package .|
|My query is whether after the W.P(C)1875/2013 case in context being finally disposed would the employees who have had opted for the special voluntary scheme w.e.f. April 2001 were retired with a pre-revised basic pension appropriate to the sixth b.P. basic salary structures dating to the year 1992 and not commensurate with the basic salary features of the 7th B.P. - then would not the pre-revised basic pension of such employees who had retired in 2001 during the concurrency of the 7th B.P. will be revised by the bank promptly. |
|Comment: Yes, our basic demand as stated in the petition, is payment of pension calculated at 50% of last salary drawn, without ceilings. If this relief is granted by the Court, the biggest and most deserving beneficiaries will be the 33000 odd retirees of 7th Bipartite, including the VRS optees.|
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 04-02-2016 02:22:|
|REGULAR MATTERS CAUSE LIST DATED THE 5TH FEBRUARY,2016 OF DELHI HIGH COURT SHOWS THE ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE IS AS UNDER--|
THIS MEANS NEXT DATE OF HEARING IS 9TH FEBRUARY,2016.
|Comment: Thanks for your post. Please refer to the update given by us on this website, regarding the latest status of the case.|
|M N Murthy wrote at 03-02-2016 21:58:|
| Bank's New Insurance Circular - clarifications sought|
|I am member under REMBS - Plan 'E' of policy-A. What I understand from the guidelines/comments receive in this site from time-to-time that (a)after 31.3.2016 reimbursement of expenses under Domiciliary treatment will be 100% (which is likely to be reduced to 25%) and |
(b) the bills in original need to be submitted (c) within 30 days of the date of prescription.
Here, if the expenses are Rs.80000/- on 15.06.2016 - What I understand is --
(a)I would be reimbursed total Rs.80000/- (may be Rs.20000/- in future); (b) I have to submit original prescriptions & bills; and (c) they should be submitted on or before 14.07.2016. PLEASE CONFIRM MY UNDEDRSTANDING.
Also, cannot I submit self attested Xerox copies of the prescriptions (in case they are meant for continuous treatment) duly certifying on the Xerox copy that the original is retained for continuous treatment ? Also can the expenditure incurred in a year be claimed at one time if the expenses are for continuous treatment ?
|Comment: As we understand, we agree with your presumptions. The issue of submission of xerox copy of prescription, in case of ongoing treatment, is still not fully clear. We feel that if the doctor states that treatment and medicines will continue unchanged, for a long period, say 6 or 12 months, bills may be submitted twice or possibly even once in a year.|
|LAKSHMINARAYANAN N wrote at 03-02-2016 21:57:|
| Case No.1875/2013|
|ShrinK.V. Lakshmanan, Regular matters in courts are taken mostly in the afternoon and we have to wait for the closure of the day to know about the status of our case. Let us only pray to the Almighty that we hear the verdict at the earliest.|
|K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 03-02-2016 19:25:|
| court case no.1875/2013|
|Any information regarding taking up of our case for hearing to day?|
|M.RAM wrote at 03-02-2016 02:35:|
| AVERAGE BASIC PAY|
|99 % of retirees who retire at the age of 60, has the same basic pay for the past 12 months. usually all the retirees reach the maximum of pay. When there is no change in the B.P. then there is no meaning in calculating average pay with the same B.p. for twelve months. since the last drawn pay will be equal to the average pay. The bank should change their thinking in a positive way and make the calculation of average pay very simple.|
|Comment: This is food for thought for the Trustees of Pension Fund. The food may have to be served by the Federation. |
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 03-02-2016 02:18:|
|REGULAR MATTERS CAUSE LIST DATED 4.02.2016 OF DELHI high court SHOWS THE POSITION OF Above noted court case IS as under-------------|
8 W.P(C)1875/2013 FEDERATION OF STATE BANK
CM APPL14622/2014 OF INDIA V/S UNION OF IND
IST 5 CASES
|PRADIP MUKHERJEE wrote at 02-02-2016 20:21:|
| VOLINTARY SERVICE|
I RETIRED FROM BANK'S SERVICE ON 29/02/2012. I WANT TO GIVE SERVICE TO ONE OF OUR SELECTED HOSPITAL AT APOLLO GLEANAGLES. I AM HAVING ONLY ONE SON WHO IS WORKING AT BANGALORE. I VISIT THERE TWICE IN A YEAR FOR ONE MONTH EACH VISIT. BUT FOR REST 10 MONTHS I AM FREE TO HELP AT APOLLO HOSPITAL.
I SHALL BE GLAD IF YOU PLEASE ACCEPT ME.
BD - 184, SALT LAKE CITY, SECTOR - I, KOLKATA - 700 064.
PF INDEX NO: 1204939
|Comment: We are glad to hear about your intention to utilize your spare time by doing voluntary social work. However, we can guide you only if you intend to work along with us, at any office of our Association. We cannot extend much assistance to you if you plan to work voluntarily at Apollo. |
We welcome your attitude and intention.
|K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 02-02-2016 15:55:|
| court case no.1875/2013|
|If Shri.Vidyasagar is a Apex Court lawyer and shall not represent our case in DHC,then why he should be in the panel of advocates of penfed?|
|Dhanabalan wrote at 02-02-2016 14:28:|
| 1875/2013 |
|Let us wait|
before we pat ourselves and the counsel appointed by penfed
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 02-02-2016 02:33:|
|AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,THE ABOVE NOTED CASE HAS BEEN LISTED ON THE 3RD FEBRUARY,2016 AT SERIAL NO 8 BEFORE A DOUBLE BENCH NO 4.|
|Comment: We understand that despite the daily listing of our case, actual hearing will resume on the adjourned date fixed by the Bench. As of now, it is 4th Feb, 2016. Thanks for your untiring efforts to inform all about the official status of the case as reflected in the Delhi High Court website.|
|M. Gopalakrishna Iyer, wrote at 02-02-2016 00:25:|
| DELHI HIGHNCOURT CASE No.1875/2013|
PLEASE REFER TO THE WEB MANAGER'S COMMENTS TO MY POST DATED 01.02.2016. I HAVE GOT THE COURAGE TO BELIEVE RETD G.M. SHRI P.P.R. UPADHYAYA EVEN AT MIDNIGHT. AS MENTIONED BY HIM, OUR ADVOCATE SHRI VIDYA SAGAR IS AN PRACTICING LAWYER IN THE SUPREME COURT AND HENCE DOES NOT ATTEND HIGH COURT.FACT IS STRANGER THAN FICTION.
2. TO QUOTE RECENT INCIDENTS, SHRI RAM JETHMALANI, SENIORMOST LAWYER IN INDIA HAD APPEARED FOR TAMIL NADU CHIEF MINISTER SMT JAYALALITHA IN THE HIGH COURT OF KARNATAKA
IN THE DISPROPORTIONATE ASSETS CASE AND SHRI KAPIL SIBAL, FORMER UNION MINISTER HAD APPEARED FOR EX-FINNANCE MINISTER OF KERALA IN THE HIGH COURT OF KERALA IN THE BAR SCAM CASE. IF THESE LAWYERS CAN APPEAR IN HIGH COURTS, WHAT PREVENTS SHRI VIDYA SAGAR FROM FOLLOWING SUIT? WILL THE SKY FALL DOWN? THROW HIM AWAY AND ENTRUST THE TASK WITH SHRI JETHMAMALI, SHRI SIBAL OR SHRI JAIPURIAR AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF THE WEB MANAGERS; MY CONCERN IS FOR THE WELFARE
OF THE 30000 ODD 7th BPS RETIREES WHO ARE EITHER UNHEALTHY OR IN THE EVENINGS OF THEIR LIFE.
M. GOPALAKRISHNA IYER.
|Comment: We do not appreciate your aggression, though we empathize with your pain. Please try to understand that our case is being overseen by elected Federation leaders and being handled by competent counsels. Decisions are being taken collectively and democratically. Let us leave these issues to the authorized body, I.e. the Federation.|
|S K MEHROTRA wrote at 02-02-2016 00:15:|
| Clarification regarding domicillary treatment under new insurance Scheme|
|Kindly guide me whether domicillary treatment bills for the specified diseases as stated in new insurance scheme will be paid like these are paid by bank|
|Comment: Under REMBS, domiciliary treatment expenses are paid upto Rs 7000 per year, for any ailment. This will continue till 31st March, 2016. When you will migrate to policy A, from 1st April, 2016, you will be entitled to claim upto 100% ( likely to be revised to a lower percentage, say 25%) for domiciliary treatment of only 63 specified ailments. You will continue to submit your bills to HR Deptt, at respective Zonal Office, through your pension paying branch.|
|S K MEHROTRA wrote at 01-02-2016 23:44:|
| CLARIFICATION REGARDING MEDICAL INSURANCE SCHEME|
|I have been opted Bank's REMES under Plan E i.e.Rs7.00lac out of which present balance in my account nearabout 6.50lac.Supose the new policy under plan B is not taken by me so please advise whether my insurance for diseases ,as covered in plan B, is also cover i.e.cover for 60 diseases|
|Comment: Your cover from health risks under REMBS, will be enhanced within your existing limit, when you will migrate to policy A from 1st April, 2016, and you will enjoy all the enhanced benefits of policy B, without paying any additional premium. According to our understanding, you need not take any extra cover under policy B. You may, do so if you desperately want to take further cover.|
|KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 01-02-2016 21:57:|
| PENSION ISSUES IN S,B.I|
|DEAR SHRI WEB MANAGERS,I HAVE TO ADVISE THAT I ALWAYS WRITE ON REALITIES AND MY QUIRIES ARE ALSO WITH FULL OF LOGICS/MEANING FUL AND FOR THE BENEFITS OF FELLOW PENSIONERS I BELEIVE IN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND I ALSO KNOW IN STRUCTURED MEETING PENSION ISSUES HAVE ALSO BEEN DISCUSSED AND WITHOUT THESE ISSUES STRUCTURED MEETING IS INCOMPLETE BUT I HAVE WRITTEN MY WRITE UP ON YOUR BRIEF REPORT.KINDLY ADVISE ME HOW YOU CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I DO NOT TRUST ON PENSIONERS FEDERATION/PENSIONERS ASSOCIATIONS.AS YOU ARE AWARE I HAVE RAISED A QUESTION ON DOMICILLIARY LIMITS/CAP ON 30.1.2016 AND YOU REPLY ME NO CAP .NOW IN THE STRUCTURED MEETING THIS POINT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED.I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR PENSION ISSUES REMAIN UNRESOLVED DUE TO THE ADAMANT STAND ADOPTED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND OUR FEDERATION IS TRYING THEIR BEST.|
|Comment: We have not concluded negatively about an untiring and helpful pensioner like you. We were however, a bit disappointed to read such comments from a knowledgeable comrade like you. |
By the way, no final decision of the bank regarding possible ceilings on domiciliary treatment, was taken or announced at the structured meeting, and as of now, 100% reimbursement of domiciliary treatment expenses still exists. If ceilings are introduced, for ensuring sustainibility of the scheme, corresponding reduction in premium is to be expected.
Please do not misunderstand our comments, and keep writing and helping with your updates and suggestions.
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