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TUSHAR KUMAR MUKHERJEE wrote at 06-02-2016 04:53:

 Death of a member
Amar Krishna Pal, a member of Rampurhat composite unit, passed away last night at about 11 p.m.He was 68. He is survived by his wife and three daughters. Daughters are happily married. May his soul rest in peace.
 
Comment: Our heartfelt condolences to the bereaved family and also to your unit. May his soul rest in peace. May his widow not have to wait long, to get her family pension.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 06-02-2016 02:54:

 W.P(C)1875/2013
AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT CAUSE LIST OF REGULAR MATTERS DATED 8TH FEBRUARY SHOWS THE ABOVE CASE LISTED AT SERIAL NO 8 AS UNDER --
W.P(C)1875/2013
CM APPL 14622/2014
IST 5 CASES
FOR 9.02.2016
HOWEVER,VIRTUALLY THIS CASE WILL BE TREATED AS AT SERIAL NO 1 ON THE 9.02.2016 BECAUSE CASE AT SERIAL NO 1 FOR 1.03.2016 AT SERIAL NO 2 NOT TILL 26.02.2016 AT SERIAL NO 3 NOT TILL 10.03.2016 AT SERIAL NO 4 NOT TILL 26.02.2016,AT SERIAL NO 5 NOT TILL 19.02.2016 AT SERIAL NO 6 NOT TILL 10.02.2016 AND AT SERIAL NO 7 NOT TILL 4.03.2016.
K.R.SAINI
 

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 06-02-2016 00:55:

 court case 1875/2013
I would like to know ,whether our lawyers have finished our side arguments?if so,on 9 th will the Bank's lawyer put forth his side case?
 

Jayakrishnan T V wrote at 05-02-2016 00:51:

 FLOATER HEALTH POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES - VIDAL HEALTH TPA - TAMILNADU & KARNATAKA - ISSUE OF ID CARDS
Our applications for POLICY B of FLOATER POLICY FOR SBI RETIREES submitted at the branches, are being processed by VIDAL HEALTH TPA. who are the TPA for Tamilnadu and Karnataka states. It is being updated in their database in batches. It will take some more time for them to issue ID cards through our Pension Paying Branch.

I requested their Chennai Office over phone to issue me ID card through mail. They asked for P.F. No. and verified the particulars (i.e) name/spouse name/age. I got it through mail within 2 hours.

Contact Center
Vidal Health TPA Private Limited
"Anmol Palani",L-2,No.88,G.N Chetty Road,
T,Nagar.Chennai-600017
BSNL:18004257474/7575
Airtel:044-42894444

Their other offices in Tamilnadu & Karnataka and its Phone Nos. (as per their website): Coimbatore: 0422-2491335 Bangalore: 080 - 66793300 Mangalore: 0824 - 2495679 Hubli: 0836 - 580029
 
Comment: Good to hear and learn that the TPA in the South, is doing a great job.

C P Jain wrote at 04-02-2016 21:42:

 Family flotter insurace scheme plan A
I want to know (i) for cashless treatment in hospitals/nursing homes, who will issue identity card? (ii) when it will be issued? (iii) has the pensioner to apply for this? (iv) from where will we get names/list of 6000 odd hospitals?
 
Comment: For plan A, pensioners need not apply at all. As soon as migration from rembs to policy takes place on 1st April, 2016, Insurance company will arrange for issuance of Identity cards, when the list of approved nursing homes and hospitals will also be furnished.
We feel that there is no cause for worry. Your local Circle Association should also help in need.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 04-02-2016 17:35:

 court case no.1875/2013
I 100% agree with the comments of SBIPABC .But why other circle associations are not as active as SBIPABC .Had these association also active as that of SBIPABC, the SBIPABC will have breathing time and more time to serve the pensioners cause. When these circle association start act like SBIPABC? I feel that there is no match for SBIPABC .
 
Comment: Thanks for appreciating the efforts and contribution of SBIPA, Bengal Circle. This gives us energy to sustain ourselves, and also the website.

dhanabalan wrote at 04-02-2016 17:02:

 7thbipartite anomaly
I on behalf of abt 30000 retirees salute and highly appreciate comments to mrrogit SHARMAs post. Such comments will avoid c cxrticism.please be transparent in all you replies.
 

Unknown wrote at 04-02-2016 06:06:

 court case updates
thanks a lot for update of court case
 
Comment: You are welcome. But could you please share your identity ?

V.S. Goplakrishnan wrote at 04-02-2016 05:55:

 Delhi High Court case
I fully endorse the views/compliments offered by Mr.K.V. Lakshmanan. I was greatly relieved by the updated news reg. the DHC case. If only the PENFED had come out with similar updates earlier, the anxieies, tensions, unnecessary suspicion about the persons involved, bickerings by some of the pensioners, could have been totally avoided. Anyway, better late than never. I take this opportunity to express my grateful thanks to the administrator for the news. I am sure this is the feeling in the minds of several pensionrs who have been tracking this matter. Undoubtedly this is the only site offering such yeomon service. Please keep up the excellent work. Thank you again and again.


V.S. Gopalakrishnan
 
Comment: Thanks for your kind appreciation and encouragement. Such responses to our humble efforts act as health tonics to aged pensioners like us.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 04-02-2016 05:24:

 court case no.1875/2013
Dear website administrator, thank u very much for your court case update in current news column of your website.we expect only this kind of prompt service from other affiliates also but it is not forthcoming. Hence we have to trouble you. Once again thank u very much for your prompt service.
 
Comment: We are aged pensioners, ourselves. But we try to rise above the usual limitations of age, and try to serve fellow pensioners, in a sincere manner. When readers like you, appreciate our humble efforts, we regain the depleted energy. Thanks for your thanks. It means a lot to us.

Rogit Sharma. wrote at 04-02-2016 03:38:

 Revision of basic pension of empoyees retired under the special voluntary retirenet schme package .
My query is whether after the W.P(C)1875/2013 case in context being finally disposed would the employees who have had opted for the special voluntary scheme w.e.f. April 2001 were retired with a pre-revised basic pension appropriate to the sixth b.P. basic salary structures dating to the year 1992 and not commensurate with the basic salary features of the 7th B.P. - then would not the pre-revised basic pension of such employees who had retired in 2001 during the concurrency of the 7th B.P. will be revised by the bank promptly.
 
Comment: Yes, our basic demand as stated in the petition, is payment of pension calculated at 50% of last salary drawn, without ceilings. If this relief is granted by the Court, the biggest and most deserving beneficiaries will be the 33000 odd retirees of 7th Bipartite, including the VRS optees.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 04-02-2016 02:22:

 W.P(C)1875/2013
REGULAR MATTERS CAUSE LIST DATED THE 5TH FEBRUARY,2016 OF DELHI HIGH COURT SHOWS THE ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE IS AS UNDER--
8 W.P(C)1875/2013
CM APPL14622/2014
IST 5CASES
FOR 9.02.2016
THIS MEANS NEXT DATE OF HEARING IS 9TH FEBRUARY,2016.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: Thanks for your post. Please refer to the update given by us on this website, regarding the latest status of the case.

M N Murthy wrote at 03-02-2016 21:58:

 Bank's New Insurance Circular - clarifications sought
I am member under REMBS - Plan 'E' of policy-A. What I understand from the guidelines/comments receive in this site from time-to-time that (a)after 31.3.2016 reimbursement of expenses under Domiciliary treatment will be 100% (which is likely to be reduced to 25%) and
(b) the bills in original need to be submitted (c) within 30 days of the date of prescription.
Here, if the expenses are Rs.80000/- on 15.06.2016 - What I understand is --
(a)I would be reimbursed total Rs.80000/- (may be Rs.20000/- in future); (b) I have to submit original prescriptions & bills; and (c) they should be submitted on or before 14.07.2016. PLEASE CONFIRM MY UNDEDRSTANDING.
Also, cannot I submit self attested Xerox copies of the prescriptions (in case they are meant for continuous treatment) duly certifying on the Xerox copy that the original is retained for continuous treatment ? Also can the expenditure incurred in a year be claimed at one time if the expenses are for continuous treatment ?
 
Comment: As we understand, we agree with your presumptions. The issue of submission of xerox copy of prescription, in case of ongoing treatment, is still not fully clear. We feel that if the doctor states that treatment and medicines will continue unchanged, for a long period, say 6 or 12 months, bills may be submitted twice or possibly even once in a year.

LAKSHMINARAYANAN N wrote at 03-02-2016 21:57:

 Case No.1875/2013
ShrinK.V. Lakshmanan, Regular matters in courts are taken mostly in the afternoon and we have to wait for the closure of the day to know about the status of our case. Let us only pray to the Almighty that we hear the verdict at the earliest.
 

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 03-02-2016 19:25:

 court case no.1875/2013
Any information regarding taking up of our case for hearing to day?
 

M.RAM wrote at 03-02-2016 02:35:

 AVERAGE BASIC PAY
99 % of retirees who retire at the age of 60, has the same basic pay for the past 12 months. usually all the retirees reach the maximum of pay. When there is no change in the B.P. then there is no meaning in calculating average pay with the same B.p. for twelve months. since the last drawn pay will be equal to the average pay. The bank should change their thinking in a positive way and make the calculation of average pay very simple.
 
Comment: This is food for thought for the Trustees of Pension Fund. The food may have to be served by the Federation.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 03-02-2016 02:18:

 W.P(C)1875/2013
REGULAR MATTERS CAUSE LIST DATED 4.02.2016 OF DELHI high court SHOWS THE POSITION OF Above noted court case IS as under-------------
8 W.P(C)1875/2013 FEDERATION OF STATE BANK
CM APPL14622/2014 OF INDIA V/S UNION OF IND
IST 5 CASES
 

PRADIP MUKHERJEE wrote at 02-02-2016 20:21:

 VOLINTARY SERVICE
SIR,
I RETIRED FROM BANK'S SERVICE ON 29/02/2012. I WANT TO GIVE SERVICE TO ONE OF OUR SELECTED HOSPITAL AT APOLLO GLEANAGLES. I AM HAVING ONLY ONE SON WHO IS WORKING AT BANGALORE. I VISIT THERE TWICE IN A YEAR FOR ONE MONTH EACH VISIT. BUT FOR REST 10 MONTHS I AM FREE TO HELP AT APOLLO HOSPITAL.
I SHALL BE GLAD IF YOU PLEASE ACCEPT ME.

PRADIP MUKHERJEE
BD - 184, SALT LAKE CITY, SECTOR - I, KOLKATA - 700 064.
MOBILE NUMBER:+919830465928.
PF INDEX NO: 1204939
 
Comment: We are glad to hear about your intention to utilize your spare time by doing voluntary social work. However, we can guide you only if you intend to work along with us, at any office of our Association. We cannot extend much assistance to you if you plan to work voluntarily at Apollo.
We welcome your attitude and intention.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 02-02-2016 15:55:

 court case no.1875/2013
If Shri.Vidyasagar is a Apex Court lawyer and shall not represent our case in DHC,then why he should be in the panel of advocates of penfed?
 

Dhanabalan wrote at 02-02-2016 14:28:

 1875/2013
Let us wait
before we pat ourselves and the counsel appointed by penfed
 

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 02-02-2016 02:33:

 W.P(C)1875/2013
AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,THE ABOVE NOTED CASE HAS BEEN LISTED ON THE 3RD FEBRUARY,2016 AT SERIAL NO 8 BEFORE A DOUBLE BENCH NO 4.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: We understand that despite the daily listing of our case, actual hearing will resume on the adjourned date fixed by the Bench. As of now, it is 4th Feb, 2016. Thanks for your untiring efforts to inform all about the official status of the case as reflected in the Delhi High Court website.

M. Gopalakrishna Iyer, wrote at 02-02-2016 00:25:

 DELHI HIGHNCOURT CASE No.1875/2013
DEAR ELDERS,

PLEASE REFER TO THE WEB MANAGER'S COMMENTS TO MY POST DATED 01.02.2016. I HAVE GOT THE COURAGE TO BELIEVE RETD G.M. SHRI P.P.R. UPADHYAYA EVEN AT MIDNIGHT. AS MENTIONED BY HIM, OUR ADVOCATE SHRI VIDYA SAGAR IS AN PRACTICING LAWYER IN THE SUPREME COURT AND HENCE DOES NOT ATTEND HIGH COURT.FACT IS STRANGER THAN FICTION.

2. TO QUOTE RECENT INCIDENTS, SHRI RAM JETHMALANI, SENIORMOST LAWYER IN INDIA HAD APPEARED FOR TAMIL NADU CHIEF MINISTER SMT JAYALALITHA IN THE HIGH COURT OF KARNATAKA
IN THE DISPROPORTIONATE ASSETS CASE AND SHRI KAPIL SIBAL, FORMER UNION MINISTER HAD APPEARED FOR EX-FINNANCE MINISTER OF KERALA IN THE HIGH COURT OF KERALA IN THE BAR SCAM CASE. IF THESE LAWYERS CAN APPEAR IN HIGH COURTS, WHAT PREVENTS SHRI VIDYA SAGAR FROM FOLLOWING SUIT? WILL THE SKY FALL DOWN? THROW HIM AWAY AND ENTRUST THE TASK WITH SHRI JETHMAMALI, SHRI SIBAL OR SHRI JAIPURIAR AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS. I AM NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE COMMENTS OF THE WEB MANAGERS; MY CONCERN IS FOR THE WELFARE
OF THE 30000 ODD 7th BPS RETIREES WHO ARE EITHER UNHEALTHY OR IN THE EVENINGS OF THEIR LIFE.

YOURS AGGRESSIVELY,

M. GOPALAKRISHNA IYER.
 
Comment: We do not appreciate your aggression, though we empathize with your pain. Please try to understand that our case is being overseen by elected Federation leaders and being handled by competent counsels. Decisions are being taken collectively and democratically. Let us leave these issues to the authorized body, I.e. the Federation.

S K MEHROTRA wrote at 02-02-2016 00:15:

 Clarification regarding domicillary treatment under new insurance Scheme
Kindly guide me whether domicillary treatment bills for the specified diseases as stated in new insurance scheme will be paid like these are paid by bank
 
Comment: Under REMBS, domiciliary treatment expenses are paid upto Rs 7000 per year, for any ailment. This will continue till 31st March, 2016. When you will migrate to policy A, from 1st April, 2016, you will be entitled to claim upto 100% ( likely to be revised to a lower percentage, say 25%) for domiciliary treatment of only 63 specified ailments. You will continue to submit your bills to HR Deptt, at respective Zonal Office, through your pension paying branch.

S K MEHROTRA wrote at 01-02-2016 23:44:

 CLARIFICATION REGARDING MEDICAL INSURANCE SCHEME
I have been opted Bank's REMES under Plan E i.e.Rs7.00lac out of which present balance in my account nearabout 6.50lac.Supose the new policy under plan B is not taken by me so please advise whether my insurance for diseases ,as covered in plan B, is also cover i.e.cover for 60 diseases
 
Comment: Your cover from health risks under REMBS, will be enhanced within your existing limit, when you will migrate to policy A from 1st April, 2016, and you will enjoy all the enhanced benefits of policy B, without paying any additional premium. According to our understanding, you need not take any extra cover under policy B. You may, do so if you desperately want to take further cover.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 01-02-2016 21:57:

 PENSION ISSUES IN S,B.I
DEAR SHRI WEB MANAGERS,I HAVE TO ADVISE THAT I ALWAYS WRITE ON REALITIES AND MY QUIRIES ARE ALSO WITH FULL OF LOGICS/MEANING FUL AND FOR THE BENEFITS OF FELLOW PENSIONERS I BELEIVE IN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AND I ALSO KNOW IN STRUCTURED MEETING PENSION ISSUES HAVE ALSO BEEN DISCUSSED AND WITHOUT THESE ISSUES STRUCTURED MEETING IS INCOMPLETE BUT I HAVE WRITTEN MY WRITE UP ON YOUR BRIEF REPORT.KINDLY ADVISE ME HOW YOU CAME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I DO NOT TRUST ON PENSIONERS FEDERATION/PENSIONERS ASSOCIATIONS.AS YOU ARE AWARE I HAVE RAISED A QUESTION ON DOMICILLIARY LIMITS/CAP ON 30.1.2016 AND YOU REPLY ME NO CAP .NOW IN THE STRUCTURED MEETING THIS POINT HAS BEEN CLARIFIED.I ALSO KNOW THAT OUR PENSION ISSUES REMAIN UNRESOLVED DUE TO THE ADAMANT STAND ADOPTED BY THE GOVERNMENT AND OUR FEDERATION IS TRYING THEIR BEST.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: We have not concluded negatively about an untiring and helpful pensioner like you. We were however, a bit disappointed to read such comments from a knowledgeable comrade like you.
By the way, no final decision of the bank regarding possible ceilings on domiciliary treatment, was taken or announced at the structured meeting, and as of now, 100% reimbursement of domiciliary treatment expenses still exists. If ceilings are introduced, for ensuring sustainibility of the scheme, corresponding reduction in premium is to be expected.
Please do not misunderstand our comments, and keep writing and helping with your updates and suggestions.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 01-02-2016 04:26:

 7th bprs and structured meeting
It is a fore gone conclusion.
 
Comment: We have deleted the remaining part of your post, as we felt it was only a wild unproductive outburst, which will not help our cause, in any way.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 01-02-2016 04:17:

 W.P(C)1931/2002REGARDING PREM VATI BAGGA &OTHERSV/S U.O.I & OTHERS
AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT ORDER OF THE COURT DATED 28.01.2016 IS AS UNDER----------ORDER 28.01.2016.
ADJOURNMENT IS REQUESTED BY RAJIV KAPUR,ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF RESPONDENTS 1 AND 3 ON THE GROUND THAT ARGUING COUNSEL IS IN SOME PERSONAL DIFFICULTY.THE SAME IS NOT OPPOSEDS ON BEHALF OF PETITIONERS.RENOTIFY ON 18.02.2016 IN THE CATEGORY OF REGULAR MATTERS
JANUARY 28,2016 V.P VAISH JUDGE.
 

Nagasubramanin.J wrote at 01-02-2016 04:03:

 7th Bipartite pensioners
In the outcome of the structured meeting, clarifications about the new medical insurance plan only has been given. The more important subject of pension updation, 7th Bipartite pensioners etc. are not given. It is learnt that the Bank has informed that unless the Govt gives sanction, the 7th Bipartite pension issue cannot be decided. Why the federation is silent?
 
Comment: We understand that the issue of removal of anomalies in pension, including the most glaring one, for the 7th Bipartite retirees, was discussed, and the Bank Chairman's efforts was reportedly continuing.
We however feel that a positive court order will help all sides to resolve the stalemate.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 01-02-2016 04:00:

 W.P(C) 1875/2013
AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,THE ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE HAS BEEN LISTED ON THE 2ND FEBUARY,2016 AT SERIAL NO 8 BEFORE A DOUBLE BENCH NO 4.LISTED AS UNDER--
8 W.P(C)1875/2013
C M APPL 14622/2014
IST 5 CASES
FOR 4.02.2016
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: We presume that the listing on regular basis, will continue, but actual hearing will take place only on the date fixed by the court.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 01-02-2016 03:56:

 court case no.1875/2013
The SBIPABC in their website have clarified on1 st February, that the court case came up for hearing on 28 TH and after hearing about an hour ,the case was adjourned to 4 th February. To give this information they have taken 4 days.In this modern world where technology made every thing that happens in a corner of the world ,to reach us in seconds,this bit of news came to us after 4 days, that too after many members raised this issue.Is it not lethargic attitude of fedaration?It clearly shows that they have not given any importance to the court case/AFFECTED members.Yet penfed office bearers are honourable men!
 
Comment: We have corrected our update. The case was heard today for an hour. On 28th Jan, Govt's counsel was reportedly absent. Hence the case could not be heard.

Sudhir Suman Kumaria (Website) wrote at 01-02-2016 03:52:

 Pensioners’ Mail-February 2016
We have uploaded the Pensioners’ Mail for the month of February 2016, which you can view/download from SBI Pensioners’ Association (Chandigarh Circle) official website:

http://www.sbipensionerschd.com/


SBI PENSIONERS'ASSOCIATION (CHANDIGARH CIRCLE)
 
Comment: Thanks a lot. As usual.

Shiva ram krishna wrote at 01-02-2016 03:31:

 Court case
Dear All,
I fully agree with Mr Shri gopal krishna iyerji.
We have to go forward step .by changing your advocates and taking noc from them .

We need change in court case it is future of 33000 old age pensioners.
Lord yama will not leave them
 
Comment: The hearing has commenced today, without changing our counsels. Next date is 4th Feb. The battle for the 33000 pensioners of 7th Bipartite, and also the entire community of pensioners, should be fought coolly and wisely,....not impulsively or hotheadedly.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 01-02-2016 02:36:

 STRUCTURED MEETING DATED 29.01.2016
DEAR SHRI WEB MANAGERS,THANKS FOR ADVISING THE BRIEF REPORT OF THE ABOVE MEETING UNDER''CURRENT NEWS'' THIS BRIEF REPORT SHOWS THAT NO PENSION ISSUES PENDING BEFORE BANK/GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN DISSCUSSED AND ONLY MEDICLAIM POLCIES HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED AND ACCORDING TO YOUR REPORTS DOMICILLARY TREATMENT EXPENSES REIMBURSED MAY BE SUBJECT TO CAPS AND CEILINGS OF 25% FOR POLICY ''A'' AND 15% FOR POLICY ''B'' ..KINDLY ADVISE US THIS CEILING DEPEND ON PREMIUM EVERY YEAR OR IT DEPEND BALANCE IN ''A'' POLICY .AT PRESENT CEILING IS RS7000/PER YEAR AND FOR TEN YEARS. I.E 1% OF THE AMOUNT DEPOSITED .THIS NEW SCHEME IS DISADVANTAGEOUS TO REMBS MEMBERS.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: The conclusion that nothing besides the new medical scheme, was discussed in the structured meeting is not only incorrect, but it reflects your lack of faith in elected representatives. Many other issues including pension anomalies, dispensaries, etc figured in the agenda. We shared only brief details on the most relevant and hotly debated topic.
We presume that the ceilings which may be imposed for domiciliary treatment, will be a percentage of the balance migrated to policy A, for REMBS members, and of the sum assured, for policy B holders.
The new scheme is very advantageous for both policy A and policy B holders, because it offers wide coverage at low cost. For REMBS members, it is an additional means of covering health risks.

M. GOPALAKRISHNA IYER, wrote at 01-02-2016 02:32:

 DELHI HIGH COURT CASE No.1875/2013
DEAR LEADERS OF FEDERATION,

WHAT IS YOUR FUTURE PLAN? THE RECENT DEVELOPMENT IN THE CAPTIONED CASE AS REVEALED BY SHRI UPADHYAYA DEMONSTRATES A HOPELESS PICTURE OF OUR CASE AND THAT OF HEMAVATI BAGGA & OTHERS.

2. THE COURT HAS ONCE AGAIN MISLED BY THE COUNSELS FOR SBI, RBI & GOI THAT THE ADDL SOLICITOR GENERAL IS NOT AVAILABLE AND HENCE THE CASE SHOULD BE ADJOURNED. HOW LONG CAN THEY GO ON CHEATING YOU AND THE GENERAL MEMBERS? WITHOUT YOUR SILENT BLESSINGS AND SUPPORT SUCH HOOLIGANISM WILL NOT TAKE PLACE? I WONDER AS TO WHY AND HOW IS IT THAT OUR LAWYERS ARE NOT STRONGLY OBJECTING TO THEIR MOVE TO GO ON INDEFINITELY PROLONGING THE CASE.

3. OUR CASE SHOULD BE ARGUED BY SHRI JAIPURIAR UNDER THE ABLE SUPORT AND SOUND GUIDANCE OF SHRI P.P.R. UPADHYAYA, RETIRED GENERAL MANAGER.

4. YOU, OUR LAWYERS AND THE LAWYERS OF SBI, RBI AND GOI ARE TESTING THE PATIENCE OF THE GENERAL MEMBERS. THE PRESENT LEADERS ARE FUNCTIONALLY IMPOTENT. IF YOU CANNOT DELIVER THE GOODS, RESIGN AND GO ONCE FOR ALL.

YOURS VERY PAINFULLY,


M. GOPALAKRISHNA IYER.
 
Comment: Your entire theory has been disproved by the commencement of hearing in the new bench, today. Next hearing will be on 4th Feb.
We do not wish to comment on the remaining contents of your post.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 01-02-2016 00:28:

 structured meeting on 29 th
Referring to web site administrators comments to my post dt31-1-16,even after 3 days ,if the fedaration not coming out with the result of structured meeting,yes I am intolarent,I am a human being not a bufellow.
 
Comment: We shall not waste precious energy by engaging ourselves in this fruitless debate. Let us all conserve our energies for more relevant battles.

sreeram wrote at 01-02-2016 00:19:

 Medical Insurance Scheme
Please give e circular number to the branch manager for his perusal. The procedure to be followed is clearly mentioned in it. Two ambiguities noticed in the circular are the following. 1) Always written as zonal office instead of administrative office. 2) In acknowledgment area payment method is through draft but actually payment must be by instant debit to retirees account.Please give e circular number to the branch manager for his perusal. The procedure to be followed is clearly mentioned in it. Two ambiguities noticed in the circular are the following. 1) Always written as zonal office instead of administrative office. 2) In acknowledgment area payment method is through draft but actually payment must be by instant debit to retirees account.
 

BARGAVAN.S.K wrote at 31-01-2016 23:24:

 PRATIP CHAUDHURI'S COMMENTS IN FACE BOOK
Pratip Chaudhuri's comment in Facebook

(As shared with 'SBI SBI PENSIONER COLLEAGUES')







Pratip Chaudhuri to ‘SBI PENSIONER COLLEAGUES’
in Facebook : 28 January at 10:45

“The wait for SBI pensioners got longer. Even for the month of January they did not get revised pension whereas in all nationalised Banks and Associate Banks pensioners have received both revised pension as also arrears. Does this bother SBOA? I do not think so. It is a pity that when the rest of the Bank is competing in the marketplace our HR Dept is not able to keep pace with other Banks including Associate Banks. The Bank should pay interest at 8% for delayed payment and impose a fine on senior HR Department officials.
 

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 31-01-2016 22:59:

 STRUCTURED MEETIN DATED 29TH JANUARY,2016 AND COURT CASES
DEAR SHRI WEB MANAGERS,PENSIONERS' FEDERATION/PENSIONERS' ASSOCIATIONS SHOULD ADVISE THE MEMBERS THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS IN THESE Matters and they should be transparent in these matters .AS YOU ARE AWARE OLD PENSIONERS ARE NOW ABOVE 70 YEARS OLD ,SOME OF THEM ARE SICK DUE TO ADVANCED AGE AND THEY ARE SUFFERING FOR THE LAST MORE THAN 17 YEARS AND THEY HAVE LOST PATIENCE AND FRUSTRATED.KINDLY ADVISE THE LATEST DEVELOPMENTS.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: We shall upload the latest developments as soon as we come to know.

MENINO FURTADO wrote at 31-01-2016 22:52:

 NEW MEDICLAIM POLICY
It is stated in the Cir date 28th Dec 2015 that Group Mediclaim Policy B will be available to spouses of employees who die while in service on or after 1st Jan 2016. I presume that the stipulations laid down in para 2 i& ii of Cir No. CDO/P&HRD-PM/52/2015-16 dated 29th Sept 2015 will have to be adhered to. Further, will they be able to join upto Scheme H of the Policy ? Pl. confirm. Regards
 
Comment: As we understand, your assumptions are correct.

K.V.Lakshmanan wrote at 31-01-2016 22:30:

 structured meeting on 29 th
Dear friends, the structured meeting is over,the out come is not known either to fedaration affiliates or members.The fedaration is not cared about its members.It clearly shows that the pensioners fedaration is behaving like super power and it has no responsibility and what so ever to its members.It is high time let us all send email to fedaration asking them what they are up to? If they are for members let them continue in the office or else let them resign and go.We don't want such an irresponsible fedaration.
 
Comment: We presume that you are also affected by the disease of intolerance which has gripped the entire country. You need not take any of the steps stated by you, but sit back and wait patiently. We shall upload the outcome and decisions of the meeting as soon as we gather all the details.

dhanabalan wrote at 31-01-2016 22:15:

 court case
Is it wrong on the part of a pensioner to know the reason for postponement of the case.regards
 
Comment: It can only appear to be uncomfortable, if not wrong, if the reason is unknown to us.

M N Murthy wrote at 31-01-2016 22:11:

 Bank's New Insurance Policy
I am a pensioner of Hyderabad Circle and continue to draw my monthly pension from Hyderabad Main Branch only although I stay at Bangalore (almost on permanent basis).
Hence, I request for a clarification : In case of any future hospitalization of myself and/or my wife, whether I should consult/contact TPA at Hyderabad OR at Bengalore for necessary permission and/or reimbursement? Further, whether admission into any designated hospital at Bangalore is permissible or I should seek admission in designated hospital at Hyderabad only? How an emergency should be dealt with ?
 
Comment: You are linked to the Zonal Office controlling the branch from which you draw pension. Your bills will be routed through them and the TPA at Hyderabad.
As we understand, you may avail of medical treatment at any of the approved nursing homes and hospitals in any state of India.

svmani wrote at 31-01-2016 16:10:

 REIMBS
is not clear whether the expenses such as e, doctors fees, physio theraphy charges d REIMBS AFTER discharge from the hospital but within 30 days can be claimed along with hospitalisation bill or separately under domicillay treatment as Rs.7000 will be available and that too after 1st April. Bills are about 40/50,000 What is the best option. Balance in REIBS AVAILABLE for hospitalisation and not for domicillay treatment. Pl.advise. Mani
 

RAM . M wrote at 30-01-2016 07:32:

 COMMUTATION ARREARS
IN MY POSTING PL. READ THE GOVT. OF INDI WEB SITE AS FOLLOWS http://pensionersportal.gov.in/p296-table.asp
 

RAM.M wrote at 30-01-2016 07:28:

 COMMUTATION ARREARS
ANY COMMUTATION FACTOR TABLE IS ARRIVED AT AFTER LOADING WITH SOME RATE OF INTEREST. THIS EVIDENT FROM THE GOVT. OF INDIA PENSIONERS PORTAL WEB SITE.....http://pensionersportal.gov.in/p296-table.asp.... AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE GOVT. HAS SAID AS FOLLOWS::: NOTE:-

1. This Table is based on a rate of interest of 4.75 per cent per annum.
WHEN INTEREST IS CHARGED FOR AN AMOUNT , THEN THE AMOUNT PAID IS A LOAN OR ADVANCE
IN MY CASE I RETD. ON JAN.2008.MY COMMUTATION WAS PAID ON JAN. 2008 AND THE SAME WAS RECOVERED FROM FEB.2008. AFTER SIGNING 9TH BIPARTITE SCALE COMMUTATION ARREARS WAS PAID ON 27.11.2011 AFTER A DELAY OF 3 YEARS AND 9 MONTHS. RS.125215.00 WAS PAID ON THAT. MORE THAN 75000.00 WAS RECOVERED IN ONE LUMPSUM FROM MY SB ACCOUNT AS RECOVERY FOR THE COMMUTATION ARREARS PAID. INSTEAD OF RECOVERING FROM THE DATE PAYMENT, THE BANK HAS RECOVERED THIS ARREARS FROM THE DATE OF RETIREMENT. THE BANK HAS TO APPLY THEIR MIND AND THINK IT OVER WHETHER AN ADVANCE OR LOAN CAN BE RECOVERED RETROSPECTIVELY.
 

s v subramanyam wrote at 30-01-2016 06:45:

 percentage of commutation
sir, please clarify whether commutation has to be taken 1/3rd or is their option to lower the percentage to say, 25% (1/4th).
 

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 30-01-2016 06:13:

 MEDICLAIM POLCIES ''A'' AND ''B''
AS YOU ARE AWARE NOW FOR HOSPITALIZATION UNDER POLICIES ''A '' AND ''B THERE IS NO CAP.HOWEVER, FOR REIMBURSEMENT DOMICILLINARY TREATMENT OF THE 63 AILMENTS SOME CAP MAY BE PUT TO ENSURE VIABILTY OF THE SCHEME AND TO AVOID ABNORMAL LOAD ON PREMIUM RENEWAL..PLESE ADVISE US THE CAP SCALE LEVIED ON VARIOUS AILMENTS OR HOSPITALIZATION PROCEDURE.
K.R.SAINI
 
Comment: No cap has been levied till now.

KESHAV RAI SAINI (Website) wrote at 30-01-2016 03:31:

 W.P(C)1875/2013
AS PER WEB SITE OF DELHI HIGH COURT,THE ABOVE NOTED COURT CASE HAS BEEN LISTED ON THE 1ST FEBRUAry,2016 at serial no 8 before a double bench no 4.
k.r.saini
 

S.K.BARGAVAN wrote at 30-01-2016 01:31:

 COMMUTATION ARREARS
THIS IS REFERENCE TO MR.M.RAM'S INFORMATION. I REQUEST TO CLARIFY THE FOLLOWING.
1.THE BANK HAS TO PAY COMMUTATION ARREARS
FROM THE DATE OF RETIREMENT ONLY AND CAN RECOVER THE DIFFERENCE ONLY FROM THAT DATE AND NOT FROM 1/11/2012.
2.IF THERE IS TWO DIFFERENT DATES FOR COMMUTATION THEN THE RESTORATION OF COMMUTATION WILL BE ON DIFFERENT DATES.
3.THE COMMUTATION IS ARRIVED ON BASIS ON
NEXT BIRTHDAY AND A FACTOR. IT WILL BE A LOSS IF THIS MONTH IS TAKEN INSTEAD OF DATE OF RETIREMENT. FOR EXAMPLE IF THE DATE OF RETIREMENT IS SAY 1/12/2014, AND
BASIC PENSION IS RS.16715/-(IN FPA+PQA) THEN THE ORIGINAL COMMUTATION IS.
RS. 5571 THEN COMMUTATION IS 15 X 5571 X 5.28 (FACTOR) AND REVISED BASIC IS 27315
REVISED COMMUTATION IS RS. 9105 AND DIFFERENCE IS 9105-5571=RS.3534 AND REVISED AMOUNT IS 15 X 3534 X5.28=RS.279892 FROM THEY WILL RECOVER
ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF RS. 3534 X13 (SAY JAN 2016) FROM US AND THEY HAVE TO PAY THE INCREASED PENSION AMOUNT FOR 13 MONTHS WITH INTEREST IF THEY CHARGE INTEREST ON US FOR ANY EXCESS ARREARS PAID. THIS MY VIEW ONLY. KINDLY ENLIGHTEN
US WITH YOUR CLARIFICATION, SO THAT WE CAN THINK OF AVAILING COMMUTATION OR NOT.
FURTHER WE CANNOT GET ANY LUMPSUM WITHOUT
TAX AFTER RETIREMENT AND REDUCTION IN PENSION WILL SAVE OUR TAX LIABILITY IN FUTURE. THANK YOU SBIPA BENGAL CIRCLE FOR ALLOWING US TO VENTILATE OUR THOUGHTS

BARGAVAN CHENNAI CIRCLE
 
Comment: Commutation can be done from date of retirement or later, upto one year from that date. So, additional commutation is also calculated from the actual date of commutation.
Availing of additional commutation for 10th Bipartite retirees will not be wise, as net commuted pension may decrease. They should submit specific requests for non commutation to avoid such a situation.
Thanks for appreciating our humble effort to create this website.

ncSharma wrote at 30-01-2016 00:39:

 Post of PC KANTIWAL at 29-01-2016 23:34:
You may please write to agmppg.lhodel@sbi.co.in

Regards..
 
Comment: Thanks for providing this useful information. This is the benefit of having an interactive website. When we can't help, other readers can.

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