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S.K. Misra (Lucknow Circle) wrote at 31-10-2014 8:05 pm:

 49 slabs of D.A. rise from Nov. 2014
Rise in D.A. announced by volunteers today indicates a rise of 49 slab. Official announcement awaited.
 

R Parthasarathy wrote at 29-10-2014 8:13 am:

 Wage settlements
The Finance Ministry has decided to put up a note for reducing Govt. stake in PSBs to 51 percent. This is being done in spite of strong opposition from the Unions, Federations and Associations. Government does not seem to bother. In respect of the wage settlements also, the government will take unilateral decisions most probably. Let us wait and see.
 

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 28-10-2014 9:48 pm:

 The big sell out-7th.BPs
Admin. Thank you for your response.We will rest this matter as of now.More later as it developes.Sujoy Ghosh
 

SujoyGhosh wrote at 28-10-2014 11:16 am:

 7th.BPs-Court cases-the big sell out.
Dear Admn-Thank you for your observation.I am only being realistic.There is a flip side to the comment of the Supreme Court referred to in the response to M.Gopalji Tandon by me-- In a recent CAT case some Railway employees got an order for payment of arrears since 2006,pay revision.But the GOI has advised that only those petitioners would be entitled to that CAT order.The others will have to file petitions for that benefit.Now, in the unlikely event the DHC/SC orders in favour of the Fed. would the 7th.BPs. get their dues from their dates of retirement.Not very likely. You are right about our predicament being quite dark.The 1989 order of the SC,was it suo moto? What was it's basis? Enlightening us on this would raise our expectations.Kindly inform if you are aware of it.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
It depends on the relief sought for in the petition, as to whether only the petitioners or all similarly placed pensioners will be entitled to get any relief, if granted by the Court.
As regards the Supreme Court judgement on removal of ceilings on pension, it was a petition filed by our Federation, where nothing had been mentioned about Family Pension. The presiding Judges enquired about Family Pension in the bank, and gave the order suo moto.

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 27-10-2014 12:08 pm:

 7th.BPs-Court cases-the big sell out.
Mr. Gopalji Tandon-your post of27.10.2014.I was delighted to read your post.You have hit the nail right on the head because the attrition you have referred to is a reality and the Bank and GOI are only waiting for the last one of us meeting our maker.Shall we draw straws to find out which one of us is the last one?? In the Indian justice delivery process it is unparralleled that when someone has to pay money to someone,specially the Governments or large Corporates they resort to this strategy to wear out the claimants. The Supreme Court in a recent judgement has opined that the normal rule was that when a particular set of employees were given relief by the court, all other identically situated persons needed to be treated alike by extending that benefit.If the High Court judgements were implemented we may have benefited.But that is not to be.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
You may not be hopeful about the outcome of Court cases. But we wish that you do not spread your cynicism on this website. Let us not forget that in 1989, it was the Supreme Court which had given the verdict of removal of the erstwhile arbitrary ceilings of pension and had fixed the new ceiling of Rs 2400/- (calculated at 50% of the erstwhile DMD's salary of Rs 4800/-). The Court had also, in the same judgement, directed the bank to introduce Family Pension in our bank, with retrospective effect from 1986. It was neither the decision of our Bank, nor that of the Govt., nor the outcome of any demand of the two serving Federations.
Let us therefore, not lose hope, though the present predicament is not bright.

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 27-10-2014 8:38 am:

 Justice Delayed Means Justice Denied.
7th BIPARTITE RETIREES FATE
Hum Hongey Kamyab Marnoparant
JUSTICE DELAYED MEANS JUSTICE DENIED.

Mr. Sujoy Ghosh have shown his fear that if a contempt suit is filed against the Delhi High Court
the unending litigation will start and our main case will go into back ground till the contempt case is decided. He must know when the above case i.e W.P(C ) 184/2011 was filed in the Supreme Court the number of affected pensioners was 30000 and so far half of them have been called by the God and I am afraid that the case remained one & a half year at Supreme Court & the next date fixed by the Delhi High Court is
19 months after i.e 27-11-2014. In this way the remaining 15000 affected pensioners will not see the judgment in their life time. When we know that the case was being deliberately lingering on can we not take help of some law experts in the matter. If we can not do any thing in this regard what is the use of writing blogs/ comments on the topic. In this way we are showing lollypops to our poor pensioners when we know that no justice will arrive in their life time.

Shri Dhanabalan has rightly said that it is high time that our federation should change their method of achieving the object by involving members in direct action by dharna throughout the country and make the public, press and media realize our pathetic condition.

Gopal Ji Tandon
 
Comment: Dear Shri Tandon,

You may not be hopeful about the outcome of Court cases. But we wish that you and Shri Ghosh do not spread your cynicism on this website. Let us not forget that in 1989, it was the Supreme Court which had given the verdict of removal of the erstwhile arbitrary ceilings of pension and had fixed the new ceiling of Rs 2400/- (calculated at 50% of the erstwhile DMD's salary of Rs 4800/-). The Court had also, in the same judgement, directed the bank to introduce Family Pension in our bank, with retrospective effect from 1986. It was neither the decision of our Bank, nor that of the Govt., nor the outcome of any demand of the two serving Federations.
Let us therefore, not lose hope, though the present predicament is not bright.

N J CHAVAN P F NO 040930 KOLHAPUR MAQHARSHTRA wrote at 27-10-2014 8:38 am:

 LOAN TO PENSTIONERS SBI
IT IS LEARN THAT BANK HAS ISSUED CIRCULAR FOR LOANS TO PENSTIONERS I REQUEST YOU TO UPLOAD THE CIRCULAR ON THIS SITE AS IT WILLBE HELPFUL TO OUR PENSTIONERS TO KNOW THE DETAILS AND TERMS AND CONDITIONS YOU KNOEW THAT WE ARE NOT GET IT IN BR EASILY TO DUE WORK LOAD AT THE BR PREVIOUSLY I HAVE SUGGESTED TO UPLOAD THE PENSTIONERS NEW THIS INSTRUCTIONS WHICH ARE RELATED TO SBI PENSTIONERS ON PENSTIONERS SITE
 

dhanabalan wrote at 26-10-2014 11:55 am:

 7th bipartite
It is high time federation think about the reality of IBA and UFBU negative approach and change their method of achieving the object of 50% of last drawn basic as pension by involving members in direct action by dharna
throughout the country and make the public, press and media realise our pathetic condition Tamilnadu has announced steep increase in power and milk rates . Are we to to beg? Better late than never
 

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 24-10-2014 3:35 pm:

 W.P. (c) 1875 2013
Delhi High Court
W.P. ( C ) 1875 of 2013

Our Case No.W.P. (C) 184 Of 2011 Was Completely Heard In Honorable Supreme Court Of India for One and a Half Year And Ultimately Before Announcing Any Judgment The Case Was Transferred To Delhi High Court On 27-2-2013 On Some Technical Grounds As Number W.P
.( C ) 1875 Of 2013 With Instructions To Dispose It Of Within 6 Months.

While Issuing The Records The Supreme Court Said That The Arguments So Far Recorded And The Paper/ Documents Should Be Taken Into Account The Honorable Supreme Court Requested The Chief Justice Of Delhi High Court To Assign The Writ Petition before a bench of his choice for early disposal of the matter at any rate within the outer limit of six months from the date of receipt of records.

It is strange that instead of 6 months as prescribed by the Supreme Court the case is now listed after 19 months on 27.11.2014 and I doubt that the case will not be decided on 27.11.2014. So far the case was being adjourned on one pretext or the other.

There should be a contempt case against the Delhi High Court for not obeying the instructions of Supreme Court to decide the case within given time frame i.e. six Months.

Gopal Ji Tandon
 
Comment: Dear Shri Tandon,
It is for the Federation to consider the propriety of filing Contempt petition or to pursue the case in the usual manner.

Rajkumarnegi wrote at 24-10-2014 9:51 am:

 Election 2014
Sir,
I shall be glad if you please advise me the Minimum time and the maximum time frame for the election. ( 1 ) from the date of Executive committee members meeting ( 2 ) The date of Annual General body meeting , the election day
The bye laws are silent on this issue
Rajkumarnegi
 
Comment: Dear Mr Negi,
It is difficult to specify any guidelines. If the election is held by ballots, in booths spread in branches, it is a time consuming affair. If election is held at the AGM, either by ballot or by show of hands, the only question is the period of notice required to be given for holding the AGM and election. Usually a one month's notice is given, after the holding of the last Executive Committee meeting.
Ideally, the Bye laws should be amended to include such provisions. We shall not comment further, so as to avoid controversies.

TNR Nair wrote at 22-10-2014 5:56 pm:

 Happy Deepavali
WISHING ALL PENSIONERS A VERY VERY HAPPY AND BRIGHT DEEPAVALI AND ALL THE BEST IN HEALTH, HAPPINESS AND PROSPERITY IN THE NEW YEAR AND YEARS AHEAD.
 
Comment: Dear Shri Nair,
We heartily reciprocate your greetings.

R Parthasarathy wrote at 21-10-2014 7:49 am:

 Pension updating process
There is a stalemate in respect of all issues relating to bank pensioners. IBA wanted the UFBU to present a revised proposal. We do not know whether any steps have been taken by the UFBU or the Retirees' Federations. The communication gap, as usual, is maintained. I had suggested that one post one pension rule be followed with suitable maximum caps so that comparatively bloated pensions and meager pensions are not caused to exist due to dates of retirement. Equitable distribution of resources is the key to social well being. This concept has been vitiated totally in our country through self seeking individuals and institutions in power. I request the UFBU and our own Federation to do out-of-the-box thinking.
 

Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 20-10-2014 6:09 pm:

 Justice Delayed is justice denied
JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED

It is surprising that our case No.WP(c ) 1875 of 2013 which was transferred to Delhi High Court for disposal from Supreme Court on some technical grounds was listed for final hearing on 14-10-2014 but unfortunately it could not be heard before the close of court’s proceedings on 14-10-2014 & the next date for hearing has been fixed on 27th November, 2014. Earlier in the similar situation when our case No.WP(c ) 184 of 2011 was listed in Supreme Court on 26-2-2013 and the case could not be heard before the close of court’s proceedings it was heard on the next date i.e on 27.2.2013.
2- Although Our case No. WP(c) 184 of 2011 was completely heard in Supreme Court of India for one and a half year but the Bank and Govt. had succeed in getting it transferred to Delhi High Court on some technical grounds with a view to linger it on.

3- The Honorable Supreme Court in their order dated 27-2-2013 specifically mentioned as under:-
Since the pleadings are complete and the matter is pending before this Court for the last one and a half years we deem it proper to transfer the petition papers to Delhi High Court and request the learned Chief justice to assign the writ petition before a Bench of his choice for early disposal of the matter, at any rate within the outer limit of six months from the date of receipt of records.

Gopal Ji Tandon Retired Dy. Manager
 
Comment: Dear Shri Tandon,
We have edited some of the debatable comments from your post.. You had separately e mailed to us, seeking our views, about the uploading of your comments. We had promptly responded by saying that we would discuss the matter among ourselves, before giving our opinion about the propriety of uploading your comments. Hence our decision to edit some of the controversial comments.
We however share your feelings on the subject, We do not agree with your pessimism. Please do not lose hope.

S K MEHROTRA wrote at 17-10-2014 11:29 pm:

 Loan against pension and medical facilities
The reply of my queries raised on 4th October under head 'Readers write here' is still awaited
 
Comment: Dear Mr. Mehrotra,
We may please be excused for our delayed response to our queries. Please go back to your original message on medicines. We have replied there.
As regards loan against pension, we shall revert soon. For the time being, please note that no separate facility is available for Bank's pensioners for such loans. Pensioners' loans are available to all pensioners at commercial rates. There are different schemes. We shall give details to you, as well as to other pensioners on this website.

Udayan Dasgupta wrote at 17-10-2014 5:33 am:

 Delay in justice
We must claim 'special court' for Senior Citizens.
'JUSTICE DELAYED IS JUSTICE DENIED.'
 

Rohit Sharma wrote at 16-10-2014 9:21 pm:

 Delay in Justice is Unjustice.
1. It is quite surprising to note that the matter listed at Ser.No. 24 before the Delhi Court was not heard and the reasons given is that the court could not finish the first 23 listed matter before the rising of the court in the evening.

2. As a matter of practice those cases for which delivery of judgement is scheduled are usually listed on every Monday and Tuesday and the case matter in context was listed on 14th Oct,'14 which being Tuesday. If in case the matter was not heard then such unheard matter are supposed to be listed for hearing on the next following Monday or Tuesday. Then how come the matter is now posted for hearing on 27th Nov, '14. This is quite ridiculous or was it that such was the preplanned understanding between both the counsels ?

3. Is it because the 10th B.P. negotiations are on way and that the issue of the V.R.S. 2001 employees entitled for 50 % pension of the last pay drawn will be first settled and then the the issue of those employees retired in due course on superannuation after the implementation of the 7th B.P.seeking parity with the scale of pension of the V.R.S.-2001 will be decided upon finalization of 10th B.P whereby the amendment in the Bank's Pension regulation will be made for such latter employees who were not entitled for the special scale determined for the V.R.S.-2001. Can the competent office bearers of our esteemed pensioners federation can throw some light on this mystery.
 

Anirudh Kumar Sharma wrote at 16-10-2014 1:59 pm:

 Court case on Gratuity payable to retirees before 24.05.2010
Let us know the latest status of court case in this regard.
 

dhanabalan wrote at 16-10-2014 11:51 am:

 7th bipartite reirees plight
when the case was referred to delhi high court a direction was given that the case should be completed within six months. Nobody bothers except dyeing pebnsioners
 

Rajkumarnegi wrote at 15-10-2014 8:52 am:

 Annual Election 2014
Sir,
in how many days the election process should be completed
1. from the date of executive body meeting to the voting and declaring the results.
2. Who is authorised to declare the date of election process ,filling of nomination papers , withdrawal and date of election.The General secretary or the Returning officer
3. After the declaration of the dated , Can the General secretary along with other office bearers can utilize the association funds for "A I R " Tickets ( Three main office bearers), when there is no provision in the bye laws of the association .
How many times the general secretary and other office bearers should be nominated/ elected, so that they can not misuse the association funds on "Air " tickets
As the present General secretary is f the habit to use the funds for himself and his co office bearers by 'A I R " only. there is a provision to appoint the internal auditor but for the last eight to nine years no internal auditor has been appointed.
What is the future of the S.B.I. Pensioners association Chandigarh circle in these circumstances.
We seek your guidance to make our association like your Circle association or like Bombay circle association. .

Rajkumarnegi
Pensioner
S.B.I Pensioners association Chandigarh Circle
 
Comment: Dear Shri Negi,
The issues referred to by you, for our observations, appear to be internal matters relating to Chandigarh Circle Association. It would not, therefore, be proper, on our part to comment on the propriety or impropriety of any action of the Association of its office bearers.
All that we can state, is that controversies and disputes are best sorted out, through direct discussions among the pensioners concerned, in keeping with the provisions of your Association's Bye Laws and Rules.
We wish you and your Association, all the best.

R.P. GUPTA wrote at 14-10-2014 7:47 pm:

 STATUS OF THE DELHI HIGH COURT CASE
EAGERLY WAITING AS TO DECESION IN RESPECT OF OUR DELHI HIGH COURT CASE FIXED FOR FINAL HEARING ON 14/10/2014.
 
Comment: 14.10.2014 : LATEST NEWS OF DELHI HIGH COURT CASE

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CASE WHICH WAS LISTED AT SL. NO. 24, TODAY, IN DELHI HIGH COURT DIVISION BENCH, COULD NOT BE HEARD BEFORE THE CLOSE OF COURT'S PROCEEDINGS. THE NEXT DATE FOR HEARING HAS BEEN FIXED ON 27TH NOVEMBER, 2014.


Gopal Ji Tandon (Website) wrote at 14-10-2014 6:17 pm:

 7th Bp case at Delhi High Court
7th.BP Case at Delhi High Court
Please Let the pensioners know as to what transpire in our case No.1875 which was listed for final hearing on 14-10-2014.
 
Comment: 14.10.2014 : LATEST NEWS OF DELHI HIGH COURT CASE

UNFORTUNATELY, OUR CASE WHICH WAS LISTED AT SL. NO. 24, TODAY, IN DELHI HIGH COURT DIVISION BENCH, COULD NOT BE HEARD BEFORE THE CLOSE OF COURT'S PROCEEDINGS. THE NEXT DATE FOR HEARING HAS BEEN FIXED ON 27TH NOVEMBER, 2014.


SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 14-10-2014 2:30 pm:

 The big sell out-7th.BPs
Mr.Shripad Gudi-your post of 13.10.2014-- This was a trade off by the working unions for junking the pension rules for the benefit of the next settlement pensioners,which as we all know, the very substantial benefits they derived.and the other MP cohorts took advantage of that.After all, how much longer are the 7th.BPs. going to last. Sujoy Ghosh
 

suresh chhatre PF no 1330381 wrote at 13-10-2014 8:26 pm:

 10 th Bipartiates
UFBU met today in Banglore decided to conduct rallies/ demonstrations on 30 th Oct. inall state capitals and other centers, observe one day strike on 12 th Nov. followed by relay strikes, i.e. 2nd Dec. Southern region, 3rd Dec in Northern , 4th Dec in Eastern and Northeast region and 5thDec in western region followed by more strike actions including indefinite strike, circular follows , Murali, Convenor, UFBU
 
Comment: Dear Mr Chhatre,
Thanks for the information which has already reached our Association, directly. Our demands for removal of anomalies in pension, improved family pension, etc. figures in the charter of demands of UFBU. But we are not sure as to what extent our demands will be pursued, in the backdrop of the breakdown of the 10th Bipartite talks. Our Federation will have to decide on how the different Associations of pensioners will support the agitation programme planned by UFBU.

Raghunathan.T wrote at 13-10-2014 3:57 pm:

 Wage Revision Talks.
Dear Admin,
How the following news item appeard in the Hindustan Times(Indore) will affect/benifit the pensioners particularly the 7th. BPS victims?

"NOBW, one of the constituents UFBU has abruptly demanded for scrapping BPS/Joint note mechanism and for setting up for Pay Commission ."

traghunathan44@outlook.com.
 

Shripad Gudi wrote at 13-10-2014 12:07 pm:

 The big sell out - 7th B.Ps
Mr. Sujoy Ghosh has rightly observed the reason for the plight of 7th B.Ps. However, what is important is that the SBI Pension Rules have Statutory status and cannot be altered by Bipartite Settlements. It was for the Bank to ensure this kind of legally untenable are not allowed to take effect
 

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 13-10-2014 10:54 am:

 The big sell out-7th.BPs
Mr.Udayan Dasgupta-your post of the 11th.October 2014--Bipartite settlement is a settlement between two parties.But in the case of SBI three,possibly four parties are involved.SBI,RBI,GOIand the serving unions and possibly IBA.The settlements proceed beyond the implementation date and the next multi-party settlement negotiations get initiated.Thus the serving unions,in order to maximise the benefit of the next settlement works in collusion with the other three parties.That is my firm belief.Thus,the consent of the GOI is obtained for the implementation of the settlement-i.e 7th.MP(BP).But the anomaly having been noticed subsequently,the bank tried to set things right and took up the issue with the GOI,who took shelter under the 7th.MP(BP) settlement.If your or other's are of a contrary view it would be interesting to know that.Sujoy Ghosh
 

Rohit Sharma wrote at 12-10-2014 9:54 pm:

 Distinction between the V.R,S. emploees after the commencemnet of & B.P. and the normal due ciurse retirees after such promulgation of 7 th B.P.
1. The offer of 50 % was made applicable for those seeking V.R.S. and the rest who got retired in due course were subject to the prevailing pension rules.

2. Amendments in the Pension Rules as for V.R.S pensioners has had been made but no amendments were made for those retirees other than V.R.S. employees.

3. This is what is infer as is the distinction between the demand of the V.R.S. pensioner and the regular pensioners.

4. V.R.S. pensioner were given in writing that their pension would be given at pre-revised scale and later they would be regularized as per the V.R.S formula adopted by the Bank.

5. I just do not understand as why the pre-revised scale of the V.R.S.pensioners have not been regularized up till now.



 

Udayan Dasgupta wrote at 11-10-2014 9:42 pm:

 7thBPs Pension
Why would the Bank seek the consent of RBI/GOI for the fixation of 7th.BPs pension based on the last pay drawn when there is no any deviation from the normalcy??????
 

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 11-10-2014 2:44 pm:

 The big sell out-7th.BPs
The above spells out the sell out by the working unions.Otherwise why would the Bank have to seek the consent of RBI/GOI for the fixation of 7th.BPs pension based on the last pay drawn, subsequent to the 7th.BP wage settlement.On the same lines,the Delhi High Court case salted for the 14th.October 2014 is likely to be dismissed outright because no discrimination is built up in the petition per se.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
Please do not jump to premature conclusions. Let us wait for the verdict of the Court.

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 11-10-2014 2:26 pm:

 The big sell out
Like some others I had written to the new PM/FM and this is the reply I had got-...Pension Scheme in SBI is governed by SBI Emp.Pension Fund Rules which are framed in excercise of powers conferred by Section50 of the SBIACT(23 of 1955 by Central Board of SBI after consultation with RBI and with previous sanction of GOI.Unlike other nationalized Banks in SBI the amount of pension is not automatically linked to last drawn salary and after each bipartite settlement for wage revision Bank has to obtain sanction of GOI to index the pension to the revised salary.Proposal for alignment of pension based on last drawn salary under 7th.BP was not considered favourably by GOI.Sujoy Ghosh
 
Comment: Dear Sujoy,
This is indeed the official position. But, if the intention of the Govt is not malafide, a solution can emerge, even from this apparently hopeless situation. Decisions of the court can also create the desired pressure on the Govt. Please recollect that Family Pension in our bank was introduced on the basis of the verdict of Supreme Court in the year 1989, with retrospective effect from 1986. The arbitrary ceiling of Rs 1000 etc was also removed by the verdict of Supreme Court.

Udayan Dasgupta wrote at 11-10-2014 10:29 am:

 BARIUM MEAL FOLLOWTHROUGH (EXRAY) denied

Kolkata L.H.O. has denied me X-ray with above Barium meal though in our Clinical test List 'all type of X-ray 'is included.I request the proper forum to make it included in 'ALL TYPE OF X-RAYs' included as exray
 

Pasang Thendup Sherpa wrote at 09-10-2014 12:32 pm:

 Gratuity
All other banks accepted the date of bipartite agreement 1.11.2007 as base date for payment of max.gratuity of Rs. 10 lacs except SBI which set a date 24.05.2010 as cut off date of retirement.Employees retiring during the intervening period missed on the benefit. I retired on 30.10.2009. Central Government employees and other bank employees were paid gratuity in arrears but not for me. I am in search of a suitable reason.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Sherpa,
Unlike other banks, gratuity in SBI is paid as per Gratuity Act, which was amended with effect from 24.05.2010. Hence the misfortune of SBI pensioners who retired between this period. A case is pending in Kerala high court. But we are not hopeful of a favourable verdict.
Hope we have answered your query. Do keep in touch.

Raj Kumar Negi wrote at 08-10-2014 3:40 pm:

 appointment of chairman for General election 2014
Sir, there i a general perception among the pensioners, for one point, will you please guide us in this aspect.
1. we have nominated one person/pensioner to conduct the election,as chairman and after a few days came to know that he is a co petitioner in Supreme court case filed by the federation jointly with one of the main candidate for the post of President/General secretary , should we change/replace the person or not, to avoid the further in between talks among the pensioners. What is the better solution , please guide us. Thanks.

Rajkumarnegi
 
Comment: Dear Shri Negi,
We do not know whether it will be proper on our part to furnish any comment on this issue. We will only say this much : that the only criterion to be checked is whether the pensioner in question is a bonafide member of your Association. His being a co-petitioner, should not be of any consequence. However, it occurs to us, that usually a Returning Officer is appointed by the Governing Body, for conducting an election. The existing President continues to preside over the General Meeting, and the Returning Officer conducts the election. But we do not know the provisions of your Bye Laws and Rules, which should offer the correct guidance in this regard.

dhanabalan a wrote at 08-10-2014 2:35 pm:

 pensioners plight
Recently a pensioners confedration cicular is under circulation which says among other things retirees are stum,blng block and that almost settlement is nearby whereas UFBU says that IBA is not agreeable to offer beyond 11%. Why I am referring this is to say that retirees benefit, updation of pensipon and 100% neutralisation are mingl3ed with wage settlement. Pensioners have the right to view any website and exchange information as long as their pay pocket is cut short by some vested interest. God save pensioners. We are no more to believe preaching . we expect action and result before it is too long
 

dhanabalan wrote at 08-10-2014 1:21 pm:

 updation
I got the answer from AIBRF circular under circulation among pensioners.
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 08-10-2014 5:04 am:

 pension updation
In the absence informaton sought by me on with whom u r fighting for updation I presume u r fighting with UFBU
 

SujoyGhosh (Website) wrote at 07-10-2014 4:29 pm:

 Bank's Dispeneries at Branches
The pensioners,by and large, are and dependent for life on some medicine or the other.The principal ailments that occur to me which are lifelong drug dependent are; blood pressure,enlarged prostrates,diabetes and may be a few others.Is it possible for the PenAss Bengal Circle to take up with the Circle authorities to stock at the dispensaries, such medicines on the basis of the prescriptions of the attending physician which would be submitted to the Med.Off. at such dispensaries?Sujoy Ghosh
 

Raj Kumar Negi wrote at 07-10-2014 9:45 am:

 Medical facilities to V.R.S retirees 2001
Sir,
in continuation of my E mail dated 5..10.2014 I may add that the officer got retirement under V.R.S In 2001 and there was no scheme for the enhancement of medical facilities for the V.R.S retirees from 2001 to till date. What is there fault. They have accepted the banks proposal for V.R.S and now facing difficulties.
There pension is Basic Rs,4250/- under n7th bipartite and they have been deprived from 50% pension from the date of their retirement. hardship to those retirees
now medical facilities only 30% , as two lacks facility has been enhanced to 7 lacks for others.
This is great injustice with them .please give your valuable comments.

Rajkumarnwegi
 
Comment: Dear Shri Negi,
We fully agree that gross injustice was done to the 7th Bipartite retirees, not only regarding restricting their REMBS facilities within the ceiling of Rs 2 lacs, but also in calculating their pension on the basis of their pre revised 6th Bipartite salaries. The anomaly of 40% and 50%, is however applicable to all pensioners, not just the 7th Bipartite ones.

It is possible that these anomalies may be rectified through consolidated struggle for justice. Let us wait and see.

jwala prasad tiwari wrote at 06-10-2014 3:45 pm:

 transfer policy for women of state bank asper direction of finance ministary
Sir!finance ministry of India issued instruction to all banks in aug2014 to formulate transfer policy so that they may be posted as per their choice either their husband place or parents place .Is there any improvement banks showing in the matter.Thanks

 
Comment: Dear Mr Tiwari,
The issue is debatable, as to whether there should be a gender bias favouring ladies in the bank, or decisions should be taken on merit, irrespective of gender. A male officer might be so ill or having such disadvantages, that he ought to merit greater consideration than an able bodied lady officer.
However, we pensioners need not break our heads over this issue.

dhanabalan a wrote at 06-10-2014 2:50 pm:

 updation
It now comes to light that UFBU have cheated us by making us believe that they are taking up the matter of updation for the past one decade. No more cheating as they have done for the 7th bipartite retirees. Please let me know whether pensioners confederation has been recognised. If not with whom our federation is fighting for updation without any ceiling as suggested by Sr.R.Parthasarathy .
 

dhanabalan a wrote at 06-10-2014 11:20 am:

 updation of pension
I retired in 2000.As the payment of the above has been stopped from 1995 I did not know it. I could not expect either the federaton or UFBU to make it known to the ordinary members. Perhaps it was convenient for them. I expect at least now concerned organisation to make availble updation for all retirees.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Dhanabalan,
Only during the 9th and 10th Bipartite charter of demands of UFBU, have the demands of pensioners figured. But effectively, they have not done anything for pensioners so far. Even during the 9th bipartite, they had the scope of solving the problems of pensioners, with the Pension balancing Fund, but they chose to distribute the 6.4% as Special Allowance among the working employees.
Our Federation is fighting for not only 50% pension for all, but also for flat 30% Family Pension and automatic updation of pension. Let us hope for better days for pensioners.

Rajkumarnegi wrote at 05-10-2014 8:30 pm:

 Medical facility to 2001 retirees
I have received one quarry from one of our reader and that I am asking your guidance.He referred and just want to know the total amount payable to him under medical facility to pensioners.
He retired in 2001 and got two lacks medical facility by paying two months pensions He has some medical problem and has enquired from the banks approved hospital the cost of the treatment,The cost of heart problem treatment in 2001 was under Rs two lacks which has now gone more than Rs.five lacks.He has never claimed the medical bill from the bank for the last 13 years from the date of his retirement. Is the bank will pay him while calculating the inflationary effect on the present day cost of the operation.He was sincere to the Bank and now when he needs the money , what will be the total limit under the medical facility. the total limit should be enhanced with inflationary effect ,so that he can go for the operation. Please give me your guidance
Rajkumarnegi
 
Comment: Dear Shri Negi,
Those who had opted for the Rs 2 lacs plan of REMBS, (except the VRS optees) had been given an option to pay an additional sum and get covered by the enhanced limit of Rs 7 lacs. But the last date for exercising the option has already lapsed long back. Moreover, the option is not available for the VRS optees.
So unfortunately, your fellow pensioner will not be able to get any benefit in excess of the limit of Rs 2 lacs. The scheme is not dependent on sincerity and diligence exhibited during tenure of service.
Any pensioner in this situation, including those having no coverage, should arrange for Mediclaim facility individually.
Our Federation is however still trying to persuade the Bank to agree to extend the coverage of REMBS to all pensioners, irrespective of their mode of retirement.

R Parthasarathy wrote at 05-10-2014 8:37 am:

 Pension updating process
Pensioners in the financial sector in our country have become acutely aware of the necessity for periodical pension revisions along with wage revisions, as done in the government sector. Perhaps, this awareness has come to us a little too late. IBA has refused to do this but has suggested that a revised but more cost-effective way is suggested to them. One rank one pension is the rule that is just and fair. Perhaps the Federations can suggest a maximum cap for basic pay or for DA attracting maximum pay so that justice is done to all. Otherwise, the disparity, already glaring, in the pension on the basis of age and date of retirement will become unreasonably huge and totally unjustifiable.
 
Comment: Dear Mr Parthasarathy,
You are right in expressing the concerns about the plight of pensioners in the bank, specially the older ones, who draw pitiable amounts as pension. We often wonder how difficult and painful it is for them to maintain their families. The only solution is automatic pension updation, with every Bipartite settlements, as is done for Govt pensioners, with every pay Commission implementation. General Managers of yesteryears get lower pension than currently retired clerks. This is a ridiculous anomaly. Let us see what the Federation can do for us.

dhanabalan a wrote at 05-10-2014 4:18 am:

 fullpension
Federation is trying in its own way to solve the problems of pensioners inclusive of 7th bipartite. I have hopes that ON 14TH they will aim at 50% of lAST DRAWN BASIC PAY WITH INTEREST FOR DELAYED PAYMENT WITHOUT DILUTING AND COMPROMISING FOR THE SIN CREATED BY SOME OF ELDERS FOR WHATEVER REASONS THEY OBLIGED THE EARLIER FINANCE MINISTER. DHANABALAN
 

S K MEHROTRA wrote at 04-10-2014 11:19 pm:

 R E M S Reimbursement of 1% of medical limit
I retired from bank's service in October 2005. During last 3 years have been undergone bypass surgery for heart and prostat. To keep heathy body i have to incur an expenditure of Rs5000/- pm on medicines.Further myself as well as my wife is suffering fron hypertension and her expenditure on medicine is seprate. The most of medicines prescribed by Apollo Hospial New Delhi are not dupplied by Bank's dispensary resulting these are purchase from market. Please guide me whether price of medicines purchased from market can be reimbrsed from Bank excluding 1% of REMS Reimbursement
 
Comment: Dear Mr Mehrotra,

Please forgive us for the delayed response. After we are all aged pensioners, trying to help each other, through this website. The Bank's instructions are clear, even if prima facie unjust. The Bank's Dispensaries provide 53 medicines as per list, that too, if stocks are available. Medicines not available in the Dispensaries, may be purchased externally, and reimbursement may be claimed under the category of Domicilliary treatment (1% per year of the REMBS limit).

S K MEHROTRA wrote at 04-10-2014 10:48 pm:

 Terms and condition on which demand loan is granted to pensioners
I retired from Bank's service in October 2005 and intend to avail demand loan against my pension. Please guide me on which terms and condition I can availed of demand/overdraft against my pension. My date of birth is 25th October 1945
 

R K TRIKA wrote at 04-10-2014 5:13 pm:

 REMBS
Please refer to my e-mail sent just now. Please read Nov. 2013 in place of Nov.2010. Error & inconvenience is regretted.
 

R K TRIKA wrote at 04-10-2014 5:05 pm:

 REMBS
My wife is diabetic for the last 20 years. In 2009, she was diagnosed liver cirrhosis & is already listed for liver transplant in a Govt. Medical & Research Centre, Chandigarh. She has also developed other related problems - ulcer, hernia etc. In last five years, she remained admitted five times for liver problem; last time in Nov. 2010 for OLT; now waiting for a suitable donor. She is under numerous costly medication. As a pensioner's wife, is she eligible for reimbursement beyond Rs.7,000/-. Thanks
 

meysam (Website) wrote at 03-10-2014 11:22 pm:

 thanks
I enjoy looking through your web site
 
Comment: Dear Sir,
We enjoy receiving such compliments. Thanks a lot. Please send your future posts, mentioning your name, so that we may address you by name. Hearty Dassehra greetings.

suresh chhatre.PF 1330381 wrote at 03-10-2014 4:31 pm:

 DASARA
Shaanti rastu, Pushti rastu.Tushti rastu,

Let there be Peace, Prosperity, Contentment in your life !!
 
Comment: Dear Suresh,
Bahut bahut shukriya. Aap sab ko Dassehra ka shubh kamnaayen.

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